Date: 2017-05-03 11:30 am (UTC)
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......... everyone is just going to accept that the Axis/Hyrda/Nazis were truly the right people to win and we should follow them. Well given the growing ugly popularity of white supremacy and Neo-Nazis, I suppose I could see some people easily going along with this. Then again, I assume we saw all these important events the Hydra Nazis are talking about right? It would be weird to gloss over all the important stuff. that might make things make sense.


So did they ever address that whole Holocaust thing? After all, Hydra was on the side of the Nazis during World War II and if the two "really" won the war, whatever happened with that? Or is Spencer glossing over that? What about the other atrocities that the Axis committed? Hydra helped them win the war as well, so what's happening?


Lastly, rest in the peace Rick Jones. Your death will join the ranks other people needlessly killed to show how serious the event of the day is.

Date: 2017-05-03 11:38 am (UTC)
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It does seem unclear. If the "truth" was only revealed last year (before the bookburning these young kids took part in) then what is the "new reality" of the Holocaust?

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Date: 2017-05-03 11:48 am (UTC)
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We are allies of Eurasia. We have always been allies with Eurasia. We've always been at war with Oceania. Is that defiance in your voice, citizen? Tell us, what is 2+2?

Also, magic. I mean chemicals. In the water, or something.

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Date: 2017-05-03 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] war_120389
Goddamn this issue! I am loving this event so far...issue 2 can't come soon enough. From the looks of it, there seem to a sort of fracturing within the Hydra council in this issue. I wonder if that's going to play a part of this event.
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Date: 2017-05-03 05:06 pm (UTC)
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Evil bad guys scheming against each other first chance they get is not perhaps the most surprising plot twist.

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Date: 2017-05-03 11:51 am (UTC)
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Secret Empire was a weird place to have Clint and Black Widow get back together, especially since they haven't interacted in awhile.

Also, Rick Jones being killed off with Banner not being around to mourn him seems wrong to me. Rick probably wishes he was still A-Bomb right about now.

That reminds me, where is Rick's wife during all this.

Date: 2017-05-03 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] war_120389
Rick Jones has a wife? I didn't know that.

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Date: 2017-05-03 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
... Book burnings. Fluoride. Chem-trails.

Whelp. Guess I'm taking a break from Marvel for a while. Sorry Ewing.

Date: 2017-05-03 12:09 pm (UTC)
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Don't forget Rick Jones' death via firing squad! :D

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Date: 2017-05-03 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
-Sorry Ewing-

Don't blame Ewing for the crossovers.
His titles aren't responsible for this.
They need love and support, especially during the crossover seasons.

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Date: 2017-05-03 12:02 pm (UTC)
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Just a little cherry of Suck on top of this sundae of Awful - in comics which typically vastly emphasise more supermodel-ish standards of beauty for the female form, it looks really tacky for the artist to emphasise that teacher's double chin while the script demonstrates that she's corrupt.

Date: 2017-05-03 12:07 pm (UTC)
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She didn't seem corrupt, she didn't seem exactly happy with Hydra ruling the US.

But she doesn't want to get killed by Hydra goons either.

Date: 2017-05-03 12:34 pm (UTC)
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If they made her grotesque I'd agree but she looks like a standard middle-aged person.

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Date: 2017-05-03 12:10 pm (UTC)
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I really hate this. Which is a shame, because the art is gorgeous.
But this whole thing is just so wrong on so many levels. I get changing characters, but I just can't get my head around Captain America of all people becoming a Nazi.

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Date: 2017-05-03 12:26 pm (UTC)
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Because this the first time a hero was turned into a villain by brainwashing or reality alteration.

This isn't permanent.

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Date: 2017-05-03 12:12 pm (UTC)
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Hahahaha chemtrails and flouridation, sure. It honestly feels sometimes that Nick Spencer is picking political buzzwords out of a hat and assigning them to characters at random. HydraCap is anti-Wall, pro-Wall, anti-immigration, pro-flouridation, anti-elites, pro-chemtrails, pro-amnesty, whatever.

Like, I don't understand why he conquered America to begin with. I straight up don't understand what he wants to do with it.

Date: 2017-05-03 12:33 pm (UTC)
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I haven't been following the news (actually I don't follow the news): what's up with flouridation? The first thing that comes to my mind when I heard that word is Doctor Strangelove.

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Date: 2017-05-03 12:26 pm (UTC)
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Wait, what's this? An event that's actually well-written with good art? A modern Big Event that's actually interesting and thrilling and engaging? What sorcery is this??

Date: 2017-05-03 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] shadur
What the hell about any of this garbage is well written?

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Date: 2017-05-03 02:50 pm (UTC)
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Mutants are not being ignored! Mutants didn't just fall in line?

I love this.

Date: 2017-05-03 04:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] byc
I have no idea how political this is supposed to be compared to the current US government and administration.

But this is hilarious in the "I didn't know it was going to be so hard." camp for Steve it seems. Like everybody else is like, "we won, let's impose our rule", while Steve is obviously "no we have to play nice and do thing the proper way to convince the populace that this is good for them."

Date: 2017-05-03 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] broblawsky
So, here's my problem with this: if Hydra has ruled the US for god knows how long - long enough to organize massive-scale book-burnings, print new history books for their school curriculum, and fight and win an actual civil war - how the hell can things go back to normal after this barring yet more reality-altering shenanigans? This isn't the kind of thing a country just bounces back from. Hell, this isn't the kind of thing the planet bounces back from. I realize that superhero comics require a lot of suspension of disbelief, but this has officially broken mine. I'm out until this is over. Maybe indefinitely, depending on how this gets handled.
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Date: 2017-05-03 04:52 pm (UTC)
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Exhibit One: Kang War. Where the Avengers title completely nuked Washington DC, and a year later nobody cared.

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Date: 2017-05-03 05:11 pm (UTC)
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Cap: This evil overlord stick is soooo booooring.

Date: 2017-05-03 09:25 pm (UTC)
zechs80: (Mayuri)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
So um where's Dr. Doom? I know he's an Iron Man currently in Marvel Comics, but did Bendis spare him from this event? Or was he taken out early on in #1?

Date: 2017-05-04 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Yeah, I just found out they killed off arguably the most important person in the MU.

Spencer's Hydra Cap just went from interesting deconstruction to unrecognizable.

Questions

Date: 2017-05-04 06:25 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Okay, I can accept a sentient cosmic artifact in the form of child raised by the clone of a Nazi altering someone's past to be in line with a previous version of reality.

I can accept that a Russian scientist who once gave apes superpowers designed a planet-wide forcefield that also blocks any form of teleportation and dimensional travel.

What I can't accept, though, is any YouTube video getting 50 million views in the first 6 minutes, or that taking the original video down would stop any further dissemination. That's not how the internet works.

(Also, why have the space heroes spent a year in the path of constant alien invasions? Surely they can, you know, move out of the way a bit?)

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