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[personal profile] spider_man6 2017-05-17 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
Y'know, for once this event is a story that really feels like one should. Action, turns, and intrigue.
I like Fisk's "heroic" turn here. Interested to see where it goes.
Also, Rick saying we need hope feels so relevant today.
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[personal profile] qalchemist 2017-05-17 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
Fisk is a realist. He's seen this sort of thing before - he knows the heroes will eventually take the world back, or is at least gambling that they will. They always have before, after all.

So if there are people who see him as a savior, well, when the sun returns - he's in good graces.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2017-05-17 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
And if the heroes don't win, then he's the goddamn Kingpin and will either go down fighting, or rise to to the top of the new regime (which he has already got underway by disposing of competition like these crooks)

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[personal profile] qalchemist 2017-05-17 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

Fisk knows the game.
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[personal profile] cyberghostface 2017-05-17 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Even then I think he considers himself to be a protector of New York so his motives are probably genuine as far as they can be for someone like him.
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[personal profile] starwolf_oakley 2017-05-17 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Fisk has a "I prevent New York from tearing itself apart with criminal anarchy" perspective. A few stories actually back that up: Fisk disappears and the hero is busy with other criminals trying to seize power.
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[personal profile] erikred 2017-05-17 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm probably guilty of oversimplification here, but I think most writers write Fisk as more of a "you can't destroy New York, it's where I keep my stuff" sort of villain.

Or maybe "hey, you can't terrorize my city; only I get to terrorize my city."
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[personal profile] cyberghostface 2017-05-17 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess it's a "depends on the writer" situation but a number of times Kingpin is written as someone who loves his city and views what he does as necessary for New York to thrive.
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[personal profile] erikred 2017-05-17 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps, but only within the scope of "how does this benefit Fisk?"

I've never bought Fisk's expressions of civic pride or duty as anything other than self-serving excuses for his own ruthlessness and ambition.
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[personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn 2017-05-17 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
"If I benefit, then New York benefits" is probably the thought process.
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[personal profile] leoboiko 2017-05-17 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
He does protect New York… in the same way that an abusive, exploitative husband protects his wife from (other) threats. He sees the city as his.
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[personal profile] nyadnar17 2017-05-17 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. This is the first "EVENT" in a long time that actually has me excited about both the idea and the execution.
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[personal profile] zylly 2017-05-19 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
A Fisk quote from the 90's Spider-Man cartoon...

" "There's no profit to be made in the destruction of the planet. It's bad for business."
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2017-05-17 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
Being worried about Dagger running out of her life-light is sensible, NOT being worried about what a life-light-starved Cloak might become, is a little less so, as it tends to not end well.
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[personal profile] cainofdreaming 2017-05-17 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Would he become starved, though? I mean, it's the dark dimension inside him that craves the light and since they're already in it (and she's projecting into it directly)...

[personal profile] nightauditguy 2017-05-17 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Dagger has her light back powers back? Last I saw, she and Cloak had their powers swapped during Spider Island.

[personal profile] lonewolf23k 2017-05-17 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
They got swapped back in a recent Amazing Spider-Man Storyline.
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[personal profile] shadowpsykie 2017-05-17 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
is that Claire?
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[personal profile] shadowpsykie 2017-05-18 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. Cool. When did she appear again, and as looking like her Rosario Dawson self
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[personal profile] leoboiko 2017-05-17 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Hope Summers: "What's the strange thing? And why are you talking to me?"
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[personal profile] bruinsfan 2017-05-17 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Has Aaron ever explained why Strange isn't using the Eye of Agamotto anymore now that magic has been building back up to its former levels? He's used it to give the whole Darkforce Dimension a rather explosive hissyfit in the past.

[personal profile] deh_tommy 2017-05-17 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't Aggamatto turn out to be evil, or something akin to that?
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[personal profile] bruinsfan 2017-05-18 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, or at least selfish and unconcerned with collateral damage during Bendis' New Avengers Run. But the Eye's power apparently worked separately from his (hence his trying to reclaim it), and Strange did reference having it after the Secret Wars reboot. It seems to draw on ambient magic energy rather than having a direct pipeline to Agamotto himself—it stopped working during the recent Death of Magic storyline, and way back in an old Strange Tales story it grew "sleepy" after being overused in too short a time.

I'm also not clear about whether Agamotto, Oshtur, and Hoggoth were rebooted along with the physical Multiverse or if they occupied a higher plane unaffected by the Beyonders. My vote would be for the latter, but Marvel writers haven't weighed in yet.
Edited 2017-05-18 16:30 (UTC)
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[personal profile] stubbleupdate 2017-05-17 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Is Dagger speaking in the same language that The Hive uses?
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[personal profile] zylly 2017-05-17 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
All I know is that the ending has me going "wtf" and awash with interpretations.

[personal profile] long_silence 2017-05-17 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Those little eye holes in Iron Fist's mask are really distracting
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[personal profile] burkeonthesly 2017-05-20 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't realize it at first, but when I recognized it, I like the way the panels in that first scan are a fist bump and the old Power Man & Iron Fist logo in silhouette.
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[personal profile] captainbellman 2017-05-20 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
(Spoilers for SECRET EMPIRE #9)

BARON STRUCKER: "I now call to order the first meeting of the ancient, mystic society of No Steves."
HYDRA: *Applause*
CAPTAIN AMERICA: "Hey fellas, can I join?"
BARON STRUCKER: "Sorry, No Steves."
DR. STRANGE: "Huh-hyuk-hyuk!"