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"I've been fascinated by Arthurian legends since I discovered T. H. White's ‘The Once and Future King’ as a kid. From that point on, I wanted to explore every variation of the story, from Thomas Malory's work to the movie ‘Excalibur’ to the comic ‘Camelot 3000.’ One of the things that intrigued me was how there are so many interpretations of the epic -- as should be the case with all great myths -- and so many different takes on the story. At some point, years ago, I started to wonder what the Arthurian legend might look like if they were written as a horror story."

- Cullen Bunn

Date: 2017-07-10 10:46 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (chloe (evil bride))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
I have truly never wondered about the Arthurian Legend as a horror story.

Merlin always gets a bad rap.

Date: 2017-07-11 12:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
That's the risk of being the guy in the legend who does all the planning and finagling behind the scenes, when things go to shit, everyone blames you.

Date: 2017-07-11 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
Dude killed a boatload of babies. If anything, Merlin doesn't get nearly a bad enough rap.

Also, I feel like dropping a recommendation for the Myths and Legends podcast is appropriate for this thread

Date: 2017-07-11 09:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I'm not sure he does. I always loved the discussion about him between Richard Kiley's noble Lancelot and Jenny Agutter's rather amazing take on Morgaine le Fay in The Twilight Zone episode; The Last Defender of Camelot.


Date: 2017-07-10 11:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fungo_squiggly
I can see how this could be interesting. Arthur and his knights were practically invincible in a lot of the old stories. That could make them pretty scary as villains. Like Terminators in plate armor or something.

And now I'm remembering the old Hercules the Legendary Journeys episode where King Arthur was evil until Hercules taught him to be a good guy (after Merlin cast Arthur into the past with his magic for exactly that reason). Fun times...

Date: 2017-07-10 11:34 pm (UTC)
fungo_squiggly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] fungo_squiggly
That said, boooo. So far none of this is even a little bit scary.

Date: 2017-07-10 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Which is a shame. Somebody sticking their fingers into your brain to make you say things you never would choose to definitely *could* be, like, one of those memorably creepy Doctor Who episodes if done right.

Date: 2017-07-11 09:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
"Independence Day" comes close with their method of using Brent Spiner as a mouthpiece...

Also, a variant would be "Killer Klowns from Outer Space"... one of John Vernons messier ends (think... human ventriloquist dummy)

Date: 2017-07-11 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
We get that in Repo: The Genetic Opera as well, courtesy of Anthony Stewart Head, of all people, as a specialist in repossessing artificial organs (and not particularly concerned with leaving those who default alive).

Date: 2017-07-11 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Also, since I happen to be reading Mallory's Le More D'Arthur at the moment, the relevant bit...

"And then [Uther] was passing sore sick, so that three days and three nights he was speechless: wherefore all the barons made great sorrow, and asked Merlin what counsel were best. There is none other remedy, said Merlin, but God will have his will. But look ye all barons be before Uther to-morn, and God and I shall make him to speak. So on the morn all the barons with Merlin came to-fore the king; then Merlin said aloud unto King Uther, Sir, shall your son Arthur be king after your days, of this realm with all the appurtenance? Then Uther Pendragon turned him, and said in hearing of them all, I give him God's blessing and mine, and bid him pray for my soul and rigtheously and worshipfully that he claim the crown, upon forfeiture of my blessing; and therewith he yielded up the ghost, and then was he interred as longed to a king."

Of course, the rather darker part is how Arthur was gat upon poor Igraine to begin with...

Date: 2017-07-12 02:25 am (UTC)
fungo_squiggly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] fungo_squiggly
That really could have been a scary moment in the comic if it was handled better. Like, with better art, and maybe one horrified witness who realized exactly what he was seeing, even while everyone else remained oblivious.

The whole Uther/Igraine "bed trick" thing could definitely be played for horror, too. I mean, for all I know it even was, earlier in the comic-- but what I see here doesn't give me much confidence that that part was done well either.

Date: 2017-07-13 08:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
I'm not sure why they have to go the extra mile and make Merlin an escaped demon. In some versions of the legend I've read he's supposed to be the Devil's son; not exactly a stretch to interpret him as having ulterior motives based on that.


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