Date: 2017-07-12 10:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] spider_man6
You know, I've not been a fan of some of Bendis' books of late - Spider-Man, Jessica Jones - but both his Iron Man books are killing it, and this is SO Good! The ending of this issue was such a shocker!

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Date: 2017-07-12 11:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
I really like how Cage is completely manhandling Frank like he's a child.

Date: 2017-07-12 11:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mizerous
Frank can't hurt the power of Christmas.

Date: 2017-07-13 07:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Well, given that Luke was initially conceived as a bulletproof man, the Punisher is kind of left out in the cold. (I imagine someone better trained at hand-to-hand like Daredevil could give Luke a lot more trouble with throws and evasions even if hurting him is out of the question, but about all Frank could do is hope the hail of bullets and muzzle flashes allows him to run away without being seen.)

Date: 2017-07-12 11:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tigerkaya
Punisher: you guys wouldn't be so tough if Garth Ennis was writing the title.
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Date: 2017-07-13 03:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goattoucher
Snrk!

Date: 2017-07-13 03:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joetuss
Ennis would have you think, Frank could beat up the Living Tribunal.

Date: 2017-07-14 03:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glprime
Pretty much.

Date: 2017-07-13 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
The cover:

"Oh no, Luke Cage has been... shot?"

Inside got it bang on ^^

Date: 2017-07-13 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
The cover just makes me feel really bad for Frank, because if Danny's throwing a serious Iron Fist at him, he's about to become a puddle.

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Date: 2017-07-13 01:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
If you don't like the Punisher, if you don't think he is either cool, scary, or freaken hilarious why use him?

Don't really see the point of tearing characters down.

Date: 2017-07-13 01:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tigerkaya
Because Heroes in Punisher's titles were treated with very little respect seems only fair to give him the same treatment. Let him be reminded he's in a shared universe.

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Date: 2017-07-13 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Eh, Luke Cage basic powerset completely nullify anything Punisher could realistically have on him without prep time.

Date: 2017-07-13 03:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
Considering that Luke Cage is bullet proof and has super strength, i don't understand the issue here. There's no way Castle could harm Cage.

And considering Frank shot at Jessica, he's lucky a sleeper hold is all Luke did.

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Date: 2017-07-13 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Don't you think the Punisher is both funny and scary in this scene? He's jumped by two very competent superheroes, including a guy who can tear a tank in half with his bare hands. Does Frank surrender? Nope, he whips out a bottle of acid and dumps it on Luke Cage while they're wrestling. That's pretty dang hardcore. Does it work? Of course not, but it's hardcore nonetheless.

I don't see anything here as tearing the character down; this is exactly the level he's supposed to operate at in mainstream continuity. When you're an obsessed, murderous vigilante with no superpowers who operates in Marvel NYC, you get in fights with superheroes a lot and you usually end up getting your butt kicked in the end. Remember, the Punisher was working with the Jackal and trying to kill Spider-Man in his very first appearance!

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Date: 2017-07-13 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
This is kinder than I'd be to Frank.

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Date: 2017-07-13 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] remial
Luke should just take the shirts of all the people he beats up. Save him a lot of dough.

Date: 2017-07-13 01:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mesmiranda
Or he could go shirtless.

I mean, for practical reasons.

Totally practical.

*cough*

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Date: 2017-07-13 02:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
It's possible, in a fight between the superpowered and the nonpowered badass, to depict the former as doing things beyond windmilling and charging head-on into setups?

Who knew.

(It's their book, but still.)

Date: 2017-07-13 02:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
As I said on this board a few months ago, "sending the Punisher to prison is like sending a metaphor to another metaphor and lots of metaphors getting killed by the Punisher."

Date: 2017-07-13 06:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ovaltinepatrol
I like Punisher stories that play out like an 80s popcorn flick, one badass against an army of gun toting baddies. This is a pretty good scene, Punisher should have his butt handed to him by super powered people. I'm glad he didn't have any bizarre gizmos or adamantium bullets or whatever.

Date: 2017-07-13 03:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
I'd like to see Batman in a story like this, with Superman or some other superpowered hero get the drop on him. Yeah, Batman always has plans, but let's say he's having an off day. Superman should be able to just tap him unconscious or look bored with the whole 'fight'. It'd be a nice antidote to all the stories where Batman 'defeats' Superman with Green K or other tricks. Give Bruce a little reminder not to tick Clark off!
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Date: 2017-07-13 03:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joetuss
Batman isn't a lunatic, the way Frank is, he'd never pull this nonsense.

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Date: 2017-07-13 04:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] featheredserpent
Bonus points to anyone who refers to "Garydevil" at any future team-ups.

Date: 2017-07-13 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
This is how every Punisher / superhero fight should go.

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