Date: 2017-07-14 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] capnduckman
Well.

That's a whole HELL of a lot of references...

Date: 2017-07-14 02:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
" .. is that really a question you want to ask me? "
" Yes. "
" Hh. Fine.. "

Date: 2017-07-14 03:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmanbot
That's a tuning fork from COIE? and Plastic Man in a silly putty case?

Hell, take my money .

Date: 2017-07-14 03:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
this seems like it's gonna be A HUGE event... and what I like about this is that it's seems like they are actually going for Subtle here, rather than "HUGE EVENT" it's "huge event that will affect the DCU"

also ZINDA?!?!

also again. Is Batman writing a letter to himself.

Also Also.... the four tribes, batman obviously.... one looks like a bird/eagle, sooo wonder woman? one looks like a wolf and one looks like a bear.... who could they be?

Date: 2017-07-14 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
-Is Batman writing a letter to himself-

Naw. That's Hawkman's journal.

Date: 2017-07-14 03:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
Man, the continuity is such a mess these days that this raises SO MANY questions. Like... COIE happened even after New 52? How? *When?* Did Barry die and come back? It.. I...

OH DC, why do you hurt me so?

Date: 2017-07-14 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
-COIE happened even after New 52? How?-

Back at the beginning of Rebirth, it turned out Doctor Manhattan had been futzing with the timeline. Somehow. For some reason.
So COIE did happen, just most folk don't remember it.

Date: 2017-07-14 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
Which is pretty much what Wolfman's original intention was, for the story to end with Crisis 10 and the last two issues to basically be what we got in History of the DC Universe, with no one aware that anything had ever been any different than it actually was.

Date: 2017-07-14 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
fans tell them they don't want darkness, they keep insisting that, DC finally reboots with less darkness, and then off to the side....

DCs entire editorial staff needs to be tossed

Date: 2017-07-14 10:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
But also people/corpses tied to the thighs of a giant statue of Batman... they're risking some serious tonal whiplash.

Date: 2017-07-15 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
To be fair, New Teen Titans's Trigon Arc was preeeeeety messed up.

Date: 2017-07-16 11:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Not quite sure which Trigon arc you're referring to (They were all pretty messed up) or what relevance it has to this story.

Date: 2017-07-16 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
the original one that had literal pillars of people screaming in one page.

Date: 2017-07-14 05:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmanbot
I'm OK so far. Especially when they're at the fortress, and Bruce says that he's not pushing anybody away this time. It shows they are a bit conscious of going grimdark.

Date: 2017-07-15 01:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
People being all "What the Hell, Bruce?" and him being all "That's what I'm trying to figure out, and I'll tell you as soon as I know" and them being "Sounds legit, call me if you need me" is a nice change of pace from "I AM BATMAN I HAVE SECRETS."

Date: 2017-07-14 09:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
DC puts out a bunch of good books that don't have this problem, but the big problem with their 'major event' books continues to be the way they only look inward.

The quality of Marvel events varies wildly. Some of them like Civil War 2 are awful while others like Secrete Empire has so far been very good. But they at least have relevant (in the most basic sense of that word, not necessarily in the "ripped from the headlines sense) central hooks that go beyond the pure means-nothing inside baseball of the "Find out the true nature of the Green Lanterns' power" sort.
Edited Date: 2017-07-14 09:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverzeo
... Oh! Lord!

Please tell this ISN'T the Dark Knight 2 Dick Grayson/Joker.... the one where he went through (off panel) experiments to become a Joker who could regenerate, dressed up in LoSH cosplay... and was ultimately killed by Bruce himself as he cut off his head and dropped it in a underground volcano, who not only did that without ANY hesitation or sign of regret; but also REPEATEDLY called Dick a mistake and failure the whole time....

It DID came out 15 years ago this month... a month after the Live Action Scooby Doo movie turned Scrappy Doo in a demonic soul sucking psycho...

Were there any "Screw You" moments to minor/sidekick DC/WB characters in August on par of those, cause so far it seem to be THAT kind of Summer.
Edited Date: 2017-07-15 05:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
No, I think the Joker addressing us in those final pages is Snyder's Joker from DOTF/Endgame, etc. You can tell from the black suit and smoothed back/undercut hair. He's one of the apparently three Jokers roaming around now.

Given the sheer amount of references, the 'means for Dick Grayson to stay alive' is the tooth Bruce knocked out of him back in Court of Owls. Ball!Plastic Man appears to be the only reference to DK2.
From: [personal profile] scorntx
It is indeed the Joker of DOTF/Engame.

Date: 2017-07-15 02:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tigerkaya
YESSSSS!!!! This is what I'm &@$cking talking about world building, writing from the previous narrative this is what I'm talking about!

$&@* you DC fans have it good, none of this Axis B.S. or Secret Empires nonsense
no this is what I want from my comic experience.

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