Date: 2017-08-02 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Stevie Hunter became a congresswoman

Sure. Why not?

Date: 2017-08-02 04:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] balbanes
I've completely lost track of her since she was Kitty's dance instructor. That was when Kitty was 13-14, and she's in her late 20s now. What's Stevie been up to in the interim?

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Date: 2017-08-02 04:11 pm (UTC)
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Whoof, Everyone's sudden hyper-awareness of Washington (for some reason) is definitely informing this comic.

Date: 2017-08-02 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
you can't just strip people born in the US of their citizenship and you can't deport citizens

Date: 2017-08-02 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I'm sure some government villian will argue that they aren't people

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Date: 2017-08-02 06:40 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, its super frustrating that they completely ignore the distinction between citizen, non-citizen, and person in the country illegally.

Its a very interesting and relevant debate with immediate real world consequences, but if you ignore those distinctions the rest of the conversation is pretty pointless.

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Date: 2017-08-02 07:16 pm (UTC)
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Sure you can. Birthright citizenship comes from the 14th Amendment, which says that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." "Persons" plainly means human beings-- no one asserts that dogs or monkeys are citizens of the United States. Further, the 14th Amendment was intended to ensure that former slaves were citizens-- there was no intent to extend citizenship to mutants, who weren't even publicly known in 1868.

If mutants are a different species, then they aren't technically human beings, which means they aren't "persons" as used in the 14th Amendment, which means they don't qualify for birthright citizenship. Since they probably never took a citizenship test, then they aren't citizens at all.

Do I believe any of that? No. But it isn't that hard to come up with a plausible-sounding legal argument to address just about anything. And if people like where your argument leads, they'll pretend they were swayed by your logic rather than their raging bigotry.

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Date: 2017-08-02 07:19 pm (UTC)
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Has there ever been a moment where what you wanted was not "right" with me?

How about the time you were both infected by the Brood and a scared, 14-year-old Kitty wanted to lose her virginity before she died? You said no, Piotr... which, let's be clear, was ABSOLUTELY the right thing to do.

Or the time she wanted to stay together, but you broke up with her because you fell in love with a dead alien girl on Battleworld and also editorial was squicked out by your age difference?

I mean, I could go on.

Date: 2017-08-02 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] grapeweasel
I was just going to say Peter Wisdom. But those are good too....

Date: 2017-08-02 09:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
And Peter joining the Acolytes because Illyana had died of the Legacy Virus. Kitty was not "right" with that. Although Peter did what he could so the Acolytes weren't full "kill all humans." (They actually just stayed on the Avalon space station for a while.)

Date: 2017-08-03 06:18 pm (UTC)
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Or the time he beat the ever loving shit out of Pete Wisdom for daring to encroach on "his" Katya (Despite them never having been more than mutually infatuated, and having been broken up for well over ten years), at which point Kitty verbally tore him several new orifices.

Date: 2017-08-02 08:46 pm (UTC)
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Since when is Rachel scared of becoming like "Jean" who never showed a lack of control with her powers while Rachel was around?

Date: 2017-08-02 09:13 pm (UTC)
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Nice to see Stevie!

Peter/Kitty is still creepy. Did nobody back then realized the repercussions of it

Date: 2017-08-02 10:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Jim Shooter did. Them breaking up was his idea, apparently.

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Date: 2017-08-03 12:29 am (UTC)
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It does make Kurt/Rachel less creepy in comparison. Kinda.

Honestly, the best for these four to find love would be for them to swap partners - and no, I'm not talking Kitty/Kurt.

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Date: 2017-08-03 02:15 am (UTC)
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I'm into them being a couple. Don't know. It's always worked for me. There's a considerable age gap between me and my husband, too.

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Date: 2017-08-02 09:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmanbot
X-men 165 tried to put it in context. They were about to become brood and pete was saying in Russia, him being 17 and her 14, they would be married already. Different time, different circumstances.

Date: 2017-08-02 09:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmanbot
And for the record , this old fart has been shipping Peter and kitty since the 80`s.

Date: 2017-08-03 02:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] indy2012
I always saw it from Kitty's perspective because I was Kitty's age when first reading her and identified with being a precocious "wiz kid." I always thought, "God, why can't I have a huge, beautiful Russian in my life?" I eventually settled for a huge, beautiful Irishman.

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Date: 2017-08-03 06:05 pm (UTC)
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Whereas this old fart has been actively "Nope!"-ing them since around the same time period! :)

Date: 2017-08-03 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
Sometimes I reflect on how Mutants and the NRA are natural political allies.

Date: 2017-08-03 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
another thing that irritates me, this is post Secret Empire. Weeks after the US was conquered by fascists, they're pulling this

Date: 2017-08-03 03:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I've wondered if the Cosmic Cube will be used so only a few people will go "Remember that time Captain America and Hydra conquered America?"

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Date: 2017-08-04 04:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Was never a fan of Piotr and Kitty. Let's see her back with Wisdom or Quill. Or let her follow in the shoes of her deceased Earth-1610 counterpart and date the remaining available Peter in the caped community. I think they'd hit it off. Nerd love!

Date: 2017-08-05 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
The only male love interest I've ever liked 616 Kitty with is Iceman and Marvel went out of their way to torpedo that ship.

Date: 2017-08-08 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
I'm really weirded out by Kurt/Ray, but I guess Congresswoman Stevie Hunter is objectively weirder.

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