Date: 2009-08-12 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midnightvoyager.insanejournal.com
Oh my god, CHARLES, I'VE MISSED YOU SO MUCH AS A PROPERLY FLAWED YET GOOD MAN!

Date: 2009-08-12 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Charles logic in NOT telling them really was... no logic at all, was it?

How is it protecting them, not telling them a fact that's actually quite important to the future of their entire culture.

Date: 2009-08-12 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mullon.insanejournal.com
"X-Men Forever"...Ohhhh, it's ironic.

Date: 2009-08-12 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitty_tc_69.insanejournal.com
Why does Storm look like she's 12?

Date: 2009-08-12 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenbrowngod.insanejournal.com
I haven't been reading X-men forever and was wondering is that the x-babies version of Storm, Nightcrawler and Rouge or have they been deaged?

Date: 2009-08-12 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlbarnett.insanejournal.com
do they ever point out that a number of mutants would get themselves killed pretty quickly without training?

Date: 2009-08-13 12:43 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The idea that mutants have a shorter lifespan because their own powers eventually "burn them out" so to speak is actually a neat and logical idea on paper (although sort of a cross-between Todd MacFarlane's Spawn and JMS' Rising Stars). It also, potentially, makes Fabian Cortez the most dangerous mutant alive.

The problem is it doesn't really fit with what Claremont himself established in past continuity. One could reason Xavier was crippled by the Shadow King because Charles' own powers made him more susceptible to injury, but here states he doesn't know how it happened? And does he not remember Magneto was essentially given a whole new body after the Savage Land? And how does that even fit with someone like Wolverine, or Sabretooth, or heck, even Mystique--all of whom are supposed to have healing factors that prolong their lifespan? And I guess John Byrne's story about how Claremont didn't know Apocalypse is a mutant is also correct since, apparently, mutants cannot be immortal by definition. Same with Namor who I suppose because he's "half-Atlantian" somehow doesn't make him a mutant (even though technically it does as the whole Dark X-Men thing proves). And what about mutants who were well past their 60s like Destiny?

Guess this is what we call an example of Claremont saying "Since I made up the rules, I can bend them whenever and however I want to."

--stillanerd

Date: 2009-08-13 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timemonkey.insanejournal.com
So, is this an alternate universe or something?

Date: 2009-08-13 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erlgirl_9.insanejournal.com
Wow, I really like this.

Finally, X-teams and Xavier that I don't hate on sight. I'm sick of all the backstabbing bullshit about Charles being an asshole. Sure, it's all plot-twisty and dark-frosted, but it really doesn't make for a good or enjoyable story. It's just kind of bleh.

The art here is really nice, I find.

Date: 2009-08-13 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxhack.insanejournal.com
So wait, if Claremont had stayed on the book, then ... this would've happened? o_O

Date: 2009-08-13 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcbaggee.insanejournal.com
It's kinda like when they adapt old cartoons into movies. You get really excited and nostalgic, then 10 minutes in you realize that what was cool when you were 8 is being done by some jackass who doesn't care about your childhood.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but this book's a wreck right now.

Date: 2009-08-13 08:49 pm (UTC)
ext_395453: (Emma - Hmmm)
From: [identity profile] angelophile.insanejournal.com
One thing that does occur to me is this is actually quite a clever device in terms of the book.

Because, it's picking up from a time when the X-men cast packed two books. Everyone's been wondering what's happened to Jubilee, Psylocke, Archangel, Forge, Banshee, Iceman, etc etc who were on the team at the time. This actually provides a legitimate excuse why some of these characters won't be around - if you know it decreased your life expectancy every time you used your powers, would you still want to be an X-man? There's characters like Bobby, who've walked away before to live normal lives, who now legitimately have a reason for wanting to call it quits.

In terms of a plot device serving the book, that's actually pretty smart.

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