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T'was back at the end of her original series it happened, as a result of Nora Fries being chucked into a Lazarus Pit by Mr Freeze at Cass' suggestion.

Unfortunately for Victor and Cass the result was Nora becoming a flaming, nude woman with acid/resurrection powers who named herself a corny supervillainess name.

This is what happened.

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Build an alchemical pit that raises the dead on a mass grave of "ethnically cleansed" people. An example of the stellar foreplanning that is Nyssa al Ghul.

Date: 2009-09-01 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interrobamf.insanejournal.com
Oh, Lazara. Never come back.

Date: 2009-09-02 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xammax.insanejournal.com
In fact be ignored so a good plot line can continue.

Date: 2009-09-01 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for the post! So, what ultimately happened to Lazara?

Date: 2009-09-02 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] his_spiffyness.insanejournal.com
Well, it's a better fate that this I guess.I definitely prefer the Animated series bittersweet ending with Nora getting cured and Victor leaving to go live in the Arctic.

Date: 2009-09-02 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmagod.insanejournal.com
Didnt that end with Freeze coming back afterwards and then nora dying?

Date: 2009-09-02 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] statham1986.insanejournal.com
She remarried after a while, to the person who helped cure her, as I recall, and Victor promptly became more detached from humanity, hence his appearance in The New Batman Adventures as a head-on-legs thing, before he became sorta-human again in Batman of the Future, at which point Nora probably was dead, I think.

Date: 2009-09-02 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Wow... that's... painful, in all sorts of ways, and I'm not a huge Batgirl fan.

Date: 2009-09-02 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mxlm.insanejournal.com
Why does Cass have to ask if the zombies are alive? She just wants to be super extra sure?

"Okay, there's no heartbeat and the internal organs are exposed and I can see the pelvic and hip bones, not to mention the spine, but I can't be certain they're dead. Yo, Shiva! They alive?"

Date: 2009-09-02 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crinosg.insanejournal.com
Well she's never encountered Zombies before. Better to err on the side of caution.

Sides, they all might just be guys in costumes. Like they were doing all this down the road from a Scooby Doo villains convention and they all came to find out what was going on.

Date: 2009-09-02 12:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-02 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoffsebesta.insanejournal.com
If I had a nickel for every time that's happened to me...

Date: 2009-09-02 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zippthorn.insanejournal.com
That's not Shiva. That's ignore girlNyssa al-Ghul, moronic older sister to Talia (who was made evil by her because of stupid plots in the Batbooks) and whom we don't need to talk of, again. Ever.

Ever.

Date: 2009-09-02 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottyquick.insanejournal.com
You're a fan of Talia but you dislike Nyssa?

Date: 2009-09-02 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zippthorn.insanejournal.com
Talia was awesome in the 70s. Nyssa was never awesome.

Date: 2009-09-02 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
To this day I don't really understand what Rucka was trying to do with D&tM. I get that Talia had become really problematic, but that... didn't really help, and Nyssa lacked both the credibility (... yes, the... heretofore unseen other daughter of Ra's, of... course) and the hook (aka relationship with Batsy) to take her place.

Date: 2009-09-02 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottyquick.insanejournal.com
Talia was awesome in the 70s.

I'd have to see it to believe it. Nyssa, on the other hand, says some incredibly interesting things to Cass in Batgirl.

Date: 2009-09-03 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zippthorn.insanejournal.com
Here's a hint: the DCAU Talia, who is cool and femme fatalley, was based on her appearances in the 70s (and some in the 80s).

Date: 2009-09-02 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fungo_squiggly.insanejournal.com
Well I, for one, would like to see more of the quirky adventures of Victor and Nora Fries.

Bring on the supervillains trashing Gotham with their Jerry Springer-esque marital squabbles, followed by (literally) steamy make-up sex!

Date: 2009-09-02 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] volksjager.insanejournal.com
Nyssa al Ghul ? who's this . who is her mother ect. ?

Date: 2009-09-02 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shanejayell.insanejournal.com
Half sister to Talia. Other than that, dunno. First appeared in Batman: Death of the Maidens, I think.

Date: 2009-09-02 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interrobamf.insanejournal.com
Yes, groomed as a replacement for Rā's al Ghūl. She only showed up in Death of the Maidens and this, and then died off-panel in Robin OYL, a victim of Cassandra's suckage.

Yeah, not the most successful villain.

Date: 2009-09-02 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zippthorn.insanejournal.com
The only good thing about Evil Cassandra.

Date: 2009-09-03 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seawolf10.insanejournal.com
Well, people have gotten most

Nyssa's mother was a Russian Jew in the late 1700s. (I don't think she was ever named in the story.) Ra's had business in Russia, wanted a bedwarmer for the freezing winter, didn't realize he'd gotten the woman pregnant before he left her.

Nyssa was 20-something when her mother died of disease. She went looking for Ra's, eventually found him, and became his apprentice for a century or so.

I've got the story Nyssa originally appeared in (Batman: Death and the Maidens), if you'd like me to post some scans from that.

Date: 2009-09-03 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seawolf10.insanejournal.com
Sorry, that first line should read: "Well, people have gotten most of the information posted already, but to answer what I can..."

Date: 2009-09-02 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxhack.insanejournal.com
Calling it!

Lazara will be the KEY to stopping the Black Lanterns!

*gets booed off the site*

Date: 2009-09-02 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salad_barbarian.insanejournal.com
I was saying boo-urns.

Date: 2009-09-02 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vignettelante.insanejournal.com
I wonder what their body language looked like to her.

Also, where'd that one zombie get a big knife from?

Date: 2009-09-02 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zechs27.insanejournal.com
It's an Ubu that Lazara killed earlier.

Date: 2009-09-02 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zippthorn.insanejournal.com
I wonder what their body language looked like to her.

Probably the same as human, she doesn't seem to be thrown by it.

Date: 2009-09-02 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zechs27.insanejournal.com
Isn't that why Freeze is in Firestorm? He's lying low from Lazara and hooked up with Killer Frost?

Date: 2009-09-02 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aegof.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)
I must be one of the only people in the world who thinks Lazara was kinda a neat idea.

Not sure I like how it went, though.

Date: 2009-09-02 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oath5.insanejournal.com
See I like Cass's costume with the eye and mouth parts ripped off....she should have kept this look and not gone berserko evil!

Date: 2009-09-02 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysteryfan.insanejournal.com
Go Cass. I like watching her process her thoughts here.

Date: 2009-09-02 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
"Are they alive?"

ilu Cass.

"Because I can."

ilu Batgirls.

Date: 2009-09-03 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bariman1987.insanejournal.com
That's kind of my fear when it comes to fresh zombies. Yes, they're trying to eat me, but for all I know The Virus can be cured and they could be normal again.

Unless they're horribly decayed like we see here. In that case, let's bring out the heavy weapons!

Damn I love Cass. And the cowl sans lenses and face cover looks very cool. Kinda like when Cass went out in Babs's old Batgirl costume and Robin got so distracted by her hotness he got knocked out by a thug.

Date: 2009-09-05 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychop_rex.insanejournal.com
If it's any consolation, you wouldn't be fighting real zombies, anyway. Despite what Hollywood says, those things ain't friggin' zombies. Zombies have nothing to do with radiation or viruses or hell spitting things out or what have you. Zombies are mindless undead servants under the thrall of a voodoo master - they do not eat brains. They do not eat anything. They're DEAD.
(Sorry, pet peeve. Anyway, a tip - if you ever DO run into some genuine zombies, and their mouths happen to be open a bit, throw some salt into them. If a zombie tastes salt, he remembers he's dead, and heads back to his grave. Word to the wise.)

Date: 2009-09-05 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychop_rex.insanejournal.com
So at what point did Cass switch costumes to something closer to the old Batgirl outfit? Where's her stitched-up Spider-Mannish hood?

Date: 2009-09-05 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthnat.insanejournal.com
She didn't. It's the same costume, but Shiva busted out her eye lenses and tore off the part covering her mouth earlier in the storyline.

Date: 2009-09-05 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychop_rex.insanejournal.com
Ah, I see. Mean ol' Shiva, ruining the visuals.

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