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[insanejournal.com profile] sun_soraya Requested Dick's Oath scene a while back, and I posted it in comments but wanted to give it its own post, too. I think it deserves it. Also, I was just rereading some other great stuff in "Untold Legends of the Batman"--really like that story! And it's related.

The Original Version, from Detective #48, 1940--Bob Kane and Jerry Robinson



From Untold Legends of the Batman #2--Story by Len Wein, Art by Jim Aparo











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Date: 2009-09-13 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcbaggee.insanejournal.com
Shortly before Batman '89 came out, the Batman brand tie-in cereal had a mail-away offer for all three issues of "The Untold Legend of Batman".

I was like 5. I'd read maybe 2 comics in my entire life by that point and was somewhat indifferent. But I read those three and I've really not stopped since.

Such a great book, with classic art and a fun story that served to introduce myself, and I'm sure dozens others, to Batman. I wish I still had it, but I think I lost the first issue somewhere during one of my many moves :\

Date: 2009-09-13 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com
I got mine around the same time period . . . except packaged with a dramatic reading of the series, on tape. I've lost the tapes, sadly. :(

Date: 2009-09-13 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Nice scenes (and I love "Untold Legend" a lot"!). It's interesting to note that the original oath uses "We two", as Batman recommits himself to the cause with Dick.

Oh and I wouldn't be living up to my reputation if I didn't point out that - "I could cripple him with both hands tied behind my back" is just begging for the rider - "Lord knows I've had enough experience of THAT!"

Date: 2009-09-13 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
What I like about Dick being Batman now is the sense of dramatic arc it gives their story; that the story of Batman is really the story of Dick Grayson.

And screw you, Frank Miller.

Date: 2009-09-13 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
IIRC Mr Miller has said that he views ASB&RTBW as being primarily Dick's story, not Batman's.

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Date: 2009-09-13 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyynk.insanejournal.com
Dark Knight Strikes Again is pretty much a multi issue crapfest on Dick Grayson. Well, in addition to being terrible in multiple other ways as well.

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Date: 2009-09-13 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com
Miller shit on Dick Grayson in DKSA by making him a successor to the Joker. And a poor one.

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Date: 2009-09-13 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
In his treatment of Grayson in DK2(which I'm still scratching my head over--seriously, it really came out of nowhere, and was stupid) and the way he crapped up this story in ASSBAR.

Date: 2009-09-13 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkknightjrk.insanejournal.com
"And screw you, Frank Miller."

The funny thing, though, is that Miller's All-Star Batman is pretty much a darker retelling of that scene in Untold Legends.

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Date: 2009-09-13 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.insanejournal.com
Woo-hoo! I love the oath. But I agree, it somehow seems like a telling change that in the first oath they're both doing it together. "We too" shows Bruce already thinking of Dick being, if not an equal partner, someone with the same commitment. In the second it's more like he's testing Dick.

But either way, they're both awesome and I'm so glad they kept Bruce's lines about leading a perilous life. Their meeting can stand a little old-fashioned, dramatic hero language. They'd both want it that way.

Date: 2009-09-13 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superfan1.insanejournal.com
It nice to see different variation of the oath,throughout the years. Wonderful little insight to bruce and committed to fighting crime. XD

Also love the art in the second story. :)

Date: 2009-09-13 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmdr_zoom.insanejournal.com
Aparo defined the character(s) for an entire era, much like Curt Swan on Superman.

Date: 2009-09-13 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retro_nouveau.insanejournal.com
That's weird. When Dick first started out, his hair was like Jason's, but later he parts it in the same way Bruce does.

I think it's important that the gaudy red and yellow with green short pants should be attributed to the Flying Graysons' costumes. Otherwise, Bruce seems a little creepy.

Date: 2009-09-13 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
No, Jason's hair was modelled on Dick's original look, around 45 years previously.

Date: 2009-09-14 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychop_rex.insanejournal.com
Wait - Bats wore the Robin outfit as a kid? Has any of this been posted?

Date: 2009-09-15 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychop_rex.insanejournal.com
Any chance of doing so, if it's convenient?

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Date: 2009-09-14 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sun_soraya.insanejournal.com
Oh wow, thank you for the post! I hadn't the chance to read Untold Legends of the Batman yet. It's awesome that so many details from the original scene were included (I lead a perilous life!), though I like the oath better with the 'We two'.

I should try to get these comics somewhere. :)

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