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After saving Rogue's life in Messiah Complex, Mystique finds herself on the run from Wolverine, who has been ordered by Cyclops to kill her.

Wolverine, who is so desperate to get Mystique that he'll team up with his old friends the Taliban to do it.

This is from Wolverine #63 and #64, by Jason Aaron and Ron Garney. To keep Wolverine away from her, Mystique is impersonating a US Senator.











title: wolverine, creator: jason aaron, creator: ron garney, char: wolverine/logan/james howlett

Date: 2009-09-15 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daso.insanejournal.com
Who am I to argue with what a British law says? It's rape some place in the world, so that counts as far as we're concerned right?
(except that they, you know, didn't have sex)

Date: 2009-09-16 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberghostface.insanejournal.com
Hence, the "when it was assumed".

So why are you arguing that Mystique is a rapist, since by your standards, Chameleon would not be even if he did have sex (for the sake of argument)?

Date: 2009-09-16 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daso.insanejournal.com
What do my standards matter if the majority disagrees? I was told that I was objectively wrong because the entire scans_daily thought something else, I guess that objectively means that it's rape.

Date: 2009-09-16 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberghostface.insanejournal.com
No, my question is, why do you think Mystique is a rapist if Chameleon isn't (again, for the sake of argument, I know they just 'made out'--prior, the debate was never, "did they have sex", but rather "would that constitute as rape")?

I'm just asking because it's the same exact thing--a shapeshifter pretending to be someone else and duping someone to have sex with them--and yet you're calling Mystique a rapist and saying Chameleon wasn't?

Date: 2009-09-16 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daso.insanejournal.com
All right, I'll stop pussyfooting around. I was trolling with the "Mystique is a rapist 8D" (hence the tag) because I wanted to know how people could accept Mystique having sex in any face that isn't blue but not Chameleon. I'll leave out my views on the subject because I don't think that debate needs revisiting but just like you're saying, it's the exact same thing and I think it's double standards.

(thanks for having the patience with me ;] )

Date: 2009-09-16 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberghostface.insanejournal.com
No prob. :)

For the record, I think Mystique counts as a rapist too if she's having sex with someone who doesn't know who she really is.

Date: 2009-09-16 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] va1tyr.insanejournal.com
Weren't you telling me over here (http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/955093.html?thread=26530517#t26530517) that you didn't think the comparison needed to be brought up all the time? Is it only okay if you do it?

I said three days ago over here (http://box-in-the-box.livejournal.com/285334.html?thread=2590358#t2590358) that I had no problems describing Mystique's sex by impersonation as rape, so not a double standard.

Date: 2009-09-16 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daso.insanejournal.com
And I admitted I was trolling when I brought it up.
It's good to see that you are consistent.

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