Clark and Dick interacting
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Date: 2009-09-22 04:36 am (UTC)Re: Questions
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Date: 2009-09-22 07:48 am (UTC)There was that extra page in the Infinite Crisis trade where Nightwing, Robin, and Batman all fight Slade. It's been a while since I read it but I believe it has Bruce calling Slade out on abandoning his honor code. Then Dick mentions his family and Slade screams something to the effect of "because of you Grayson!"" At least that's how I remeber it.
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Date: 2009-09-22 04:42 am (UTC)Okay, but I can dream...
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Date: 2009-09-22 07:32 am (UTC)Originally, it was something of a mutual decision for Dick not to be Batman's partner anymore, and that eventually led to him choosing Nightwing. Sure, Dick instigated it, being a little tired of being the post-and in the partnership, and figuring he was going to college now, he should be his own man. And Bruce never fired anyone.
But no, now Bruce has to be a royal fuck to everyone. Mutter mutter mumble mutter grumble.
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Date: 2009-09-22 08:14 pm (UTC)Because nothing is more heroic than blatant hypocrisy!
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Date: 2009-09-22 08:19 pm (UTC)I MUST finish my Jason Todd 1.0 origin series sometime soon!
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Date: 2009-09-22 08:23 pm (UTC)Oh wait.
I MUST finish my Jason Todd 1.0 origin series sometime soon!
Please do!
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Date: 2009-09-23 03:31 am (UTC)But of the post-Crisis versions, I've always preferred the one with the bullet, for some reason. To me it seemed less a bad reaction to a new situation (ie: Robin being seriously injured), and more Bruce finally and definitively failing to deal with the reality that the people he loves are mortal, that Robin can and will be lost, and that in fact, the closer he is to Dick the more likely he is to meet a brutal and horrifying end on his watch.
Still ridiculous, dysfunctional, and hypocritical, mind you; but I prefer my Bruce misguidedly altruistic rather than petty and possessive.
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Date: 2009-09-22 07:23 am (UTC)I'll never understand why some writers want to write Supes as a detached God figure.
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Date: 2009-09-22 09:31 am (UTC)"Did his family ever recognize their mistake?"
"Does it matter?"
"I guess not"
exchange.
I still think the "Nightwing goes to the dark side, honest" was so ill-concieved as to be fairly breathtaking in it's wrong-ness as an obvious fake-out. It might just about work for any character OTHER than Dick Grayson, but... on the other hand, I like the idea of Dick using the opportunity to redeem Rose from under her Dad's nose. (and agreed wholeheartedly on the general theme that Dick should really be hunting Slade down like a dog, to make him pay for the Bludhaven Chemo-ing)
I can't believe that even Devin Grayson didn't realise the implications of;
"My... employer"
"Ah, is that what you're calling him now?"
"Well, he likes me to call him 'Daddy', but don't tell Bruce, it makes his head hurt."
And whilst I can like Phil Hesters art, his Nightwing work seemed too.. static to suit Dick's style.
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Date: 2009-09-22 10:21 am (UTC)Maybe Jason should adopt it. Or Slade could, if anyone ever picks up this story thread again.
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Date: 2009-09-22 01:04 pm (UTC)I think I still prefer Jason as the Red Hood he was when he first came back, it played nicely with his past links to Robin AND the Joker.
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Date: 2009-09-22 11:55 am (UTC)Also, oh Devin, I usually like you, but when you suck, you really don't do it halfway.
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Date: 2009-09-22 02:28 pm (UTC)And I would love to be saved by Dick in a hooded sweatshirt and tennies. It makes me want to snuggle him.
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Date: 2009-09-23 02:53 am (UTC)But really, this is a nice, nice scene. Clark is obviously very fond of Dick and knows him well enough to be gentle and respectful of the hurt feelings regarding the fallout, while still managing to seem relatively non-partisan, which Dick also respects. Was it canon before this story that Nightwing came from Superman? I'm so curious.
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Date: 2009-09-23 07:20 am (UTC)Dick adopting the name was a perfect tribute of Superman and Batman, honouring the two heroes who had shaped the man he'd become.
Of course Crisis buggered that up for 10 years, since Kal had never been a hero in Kandor... and Superman and Batman hadn't been colleagues...
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