Date: 2009-10-02 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Heh, this is fun. For the "old reference" geeks amongst you Black Flame was a villain who operated in Kandor City and fought Supergirl, Mind-Grabber Kid is an old JLA foe (who tends to get referenced more than you'd imagine given his original one-shot status, something about the geeky outfit and name I assume), the Ant is an old 1960's Teen Titans foe (Love the "Oh no Batman's after me... Oh no Batman's after me..." "Correction.. AQUAMAN is after you" scene! :) ) and Clown Kid is based on Punch, another 1960's Titans enemey.

Date: 2009-10-02 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Black Flame, wow someone knows their stuff. I thought she got lost down the back of the who's who

Date: 2009-10-02 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] (from
There is some deep geeking among the Super Friends writing staff; I remember scans (might've been the old comm) of a Bat-Mite story that ended with a whole passel of Silver Age imps, including Mopee!

Date: 2009-10-03 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I like that phrase, "deep geeking." It sounds so technical, like high resolution or low probability.

Date: 2009-10-02 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I was initially peeved that Black Alice was in the villain school, but the last panels look like she did a heel-face turn. Was she working for the Superfriends all along?

And now I want to see the Superfriends version of Misfit. DAAAAAARK VENGEANCE!

Date: 2009-10-02 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] (from
They cutened up Georgia Sivana quite a bit, didn't they?

Date: 2009-10-02 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yeah, she went from "Her dad in drag" to "cute librarian".

I approve.

Date: 2009-10-02 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Also: "Big red cheese" reference.

Why did they start using that anyways? Why cheese?

Date: 2009-10-02 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] (from
All I can imagine is that CC Beck and Bill Parker thought it'd be a funny sort of G-rated insult. That may be enough.

Date: 2009-10-02 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I've always assumed it was after the popular cheese Edam which is always sold as a ball, with a distinctive bright red wax layer around it (to protect the cheese).

Or maybe because he is so cheesily heroic and decent all the time.

Date: 2009-10-02 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I always assumed the red was for his costume and the cheese was because the lightning bolt logo on his chest looked like a wedge of cheese.

Date: 2009-10-02 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I figured a combination of the phrases "Big Red" cause he's a big guy in a red suit, plus "The Big Cheese" because he's acting like he's in charge taking the villains down. Plus maybe a bit of the way he act is cheesy, thrown in.

Date: 2009-10-03 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The Edam reference seems likely to me, although we may never know for sure. In any case, it's a much-loved phrase.

Date: 2009-10-02 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I have no problem with this update.

Date: 2009-10-02 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]

Date: 2009-10-02 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Sorry, my irony-ometer must be on the blink, are you celebrating this, or denigrating it?

Date: 2009-10-02 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Celebrating Superfriends, denigrating Tiny Titans.

Date: 2009-10-02 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
It's not that I dislike Tiny Titans, but dude, it's so not a kids title.

Date: 2009-10-02 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yeah, I think the way SUPER FRIENDS does it is perfect - you've got these references, like Blue Snowman or Black Flame or the Terrific Whatzit, that only the old-timers will pick up on, but that's all bonus content. If you don't know who the Terrific Whatzit is, it's still funny that Flash is trying to make a turtle his pet; if you don't know who the Blue Snowman is, you can still understand "cold-themed badguys versus the Justice League" just fine. True Warner Bros style, there.

Date: 2009-10-02 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
That was awesome! And it was too cool to see Black Alice and Georgia Sivana Superfriendified. I have so much love for this title--they even make Aquaman cool! (Which, you know, I thought might be difficult for any Aquaman in a Superfriends title, given his history in the old show...)

"Because that's what villians do!" I admit it, I lol'd. It seems like that's sometimes their motivations in the comics too!

Date: 2009-10-02 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
This is another example of how DC needs to push these books more. The sivlerage fans would go nuts for this,yet most shops just put them in the "kids section".

Date: 2009-10-04 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
You have no idea how many people at newsarama didn't know 'supergirl:cosmic adventures' existed. People were going gaga over wednesday comics and an all ages supergirl with silver age sensibilities and how that could be an 'all-star supergirl' but didn't even know that 10 months ago DC were publishing one. I think some just skip over the all-ages solicits for starters. I know my local store have all ages with the regular titles so it would be (Titans, Teen Titans, Tiny Titans) (Legion of Super-heroes, final crisis:legion of three worlds, legion of super-heroes in the 31st century) (superman, supergirl, supergirl/superman:maelstrom, action comics, supergirl:cosmic adventures, superfriends) because they realise if a person is picking up 2 or three already they will pick up another at a lower price point. There are months I can't buy all-ages titles in my local store because they are gone by the time I get there.

Date: 2009-10-02 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Hello, Georgia! :)

Date: 2009-10-03 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
[Ray Charles]Georgia on my mind...[ /Ray Charles]

Date: 2009-10-02 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I remember back when I was I kid how much I loved the Spider-man animated series, even if I didn't catch a lot of references made to the Spider-man mythos (the Spider wars or whatever was called the event with Spideys from many dimensions come to mind).

I guess is the same with these comics. Kids will like the meat of it (Adventure! Superheros being heroic ) and once they grow and start learning more about comics, they'll look back and think "man, that was cool".

In other words: This stuff is great!

Date: 2009-10-03 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The Ant is clearly an update of DC's Ant-Man, posted a while back. Yay!

Date: 2009-10-03 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Eh, no, actually - the Ant was a stand-alone Teen Titans villain, from way back in the early days. He made an appearance in the 'Teen Titans: Year One' miniseries, but otherwise, he hasn't really been seen much of since then.

Date: 2009-10-03 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Wants less Black Alice. Needs moar Jumpa!

Date: 2009-10-03 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I thought Mindgrabber Kid was male.

Date: 2009-10-03 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
He was and is, just as he is shown here.

Date: 2009-10-03 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Huh... he looks awfully femme to me, but maybe that's because long-haired guys are a rarity in this type of comic. Long hair of that sort is usually visual shorthand for girls.

Date: 2009-10-03 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Uhh... what hair? Mind Grabber Kid is wearing a crash helmet. Who are thinking MGK is?

Date: 2009-10-03 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Er - the long-haired redhead girl/guy/whoever in the black outfit? The one who's boasting about having Superman's powers? My computer is messing up a couple of the scans, so I was basically going on intuition.

Date: 2009-10-04 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ah, right, well that's the problem than, that's very definitely not MGK, that's Black Flame.

Date: 2009-10-04 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
And she is...? I've never heard of her.

Date: 2009-10-04 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
A short lived pre-Crisis Supergirl foe. She was a criminal in the bottle city of Kandor who left the city and caused trouble on Earth. Her super-villain career ended when Supergirl exposed her to Gold Kryptonite and returned her to Kandor.

Date: 2009-10-04 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ah, OK. Thanks.


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