Quesada's Siege Poster: The Frightening Origin

[theanswer]

 So I spotted these reference images on Joe's blog and Newsarama released the finish piece today.



If you've noticed that everyone seems to have the same fugly face it's because they've all become Joe Quesada.

First there is Cap and Thor. He didn't post his reference pic for the Sentry because I suspect it was taken whilst stalking Bendis for surprise butt sex.



Arms of play-doh.

Here is Iron Man and Norman.

Comments

[espanolbot]

*laughs hysterically*

[xammax]

So Pete isn't the one to bring Norman down.

Foul ball.

[okkult3000]

I wouldn't trust Spider-Man to take down a house of cards at this point.

[stubbleupdate]

Yeah, I don't think that those are fat Play-doh arms.

[theanswer]

They look big, round, and featureless.

[selke]

Damn it, I don't want to give him credit for not pulling a Land.

[stubbleupdate]

Apart from that there's clearly some muscle definition when he's holding his Mjolnir.

He looks like a guy who's bulked up through working out, not by eating doughnuts

[cainofdreaming]

It would be kind of cathartic, wouldn't it, if they had him beat up Quesada!Norman. Two worst enemies in one decisive strike.

[gl_lg]

Norman: OMFG!! Is that a zit on my forehead?!

You go, Joey, coco

[jazzypom]

Unlike Land, and Larroca, at least Joe Quesada can draw. I remember his pencils on Daredevil (either for covers or a short stint) and bully for him for actually looking in the mirror and making poses instead of tracing over stock poses.

There are many things to get on Joey Q for, but this ain't one of 'em.

[khamelea]

I think it's a question of unrealistic expectations regarding natural muscle mass.

[stig]

I wondered why he kept Greg Land employed.

[foxhack]

Cap and Thor look way too similar. I dunno.

Also, Norman looks... -odd-. He doesn't look scared, he looks like he's saying "Duuuuuuuuuh."

[aaron_bourque]

. . .

That would imply that Greg Land is the "model" for all the sameface he pulls.

The porno sameface.

Of women.

blgbldblg

[foxhack]

Uh. No.

Quesada may use photoreferences, but bothers to add details and definition that aren't in the original.

Land can't be bothered to do so.

[sianmink]

I don't see anything too terrible about this..

except that Sentry's cape is totally pulling a Batman or a Spawn here. What the hell?

[theanswer]

Well I wasn't calling it terrible really, I was just amused by the sameface and the source.

[foxhack]

He looks like a guy who has some muscle, but the natural aging process has added some fat on top of it. I have 40/50 year old relatives who still bust their ass in jobs and they look like that. Strong as hell but a little flabby.

[joasakura]

....ew

[liara_shadowsong]

Pretty decent art, here, though I'm less than fond of the fact that Cap and Thor seem to be drawn with very similar facial features arranged into relatively unique expressions. I really appreciate that photo references are being used here, while not being purely for tracing; it makes for realistic-looking hands. Norman's face is sort of funny-looking, though.

[ian_karkull]

Having people pose for photo reference is a pretty common practice. Tony Harris and Alex Ross work exclusively like this.

I actually think it's kind of cute that Marvel's EiC runs around posing like a super-hero. Shame that his art is so.. well, you know.

[stig]

...So, like, there's a bunch of porn models who dress up as Invisible Girl and Black Widow?

[foxhack]

Most of Land's female are wearing spandex suits. So, probably. :P

Re: You go, Joey, coco

[bj_l]

Larocca can draw. Remember his X-Men or X-Treme X-Men work? Hell even his Fantastic Four work.

[aaron_bourque]

No. Land STEALS PHOTOS from porn. He can't be bothered to hire models, either.

[valtyr]

I'm not making a personal attack, because I think Quesada's a perfectly normal looking guy, but the faces in the art are fugly. Thor's not awful, and I guess Sentry's meant to look weird, but Cap? D:

And that hideous gnarled hand of Thor's.

[box_in_the_box]

Except that Alex Ross, who uses this same technique, at least bothers to use models other than himself for the poses and the facial expressions, which is an important thing to do if you're an artist who, like Quesada, suffers from a chronic case of SameFace in his art. As it stands, it's really hard not to see this and come to the conclusion that Quesada has now LITERALLY turned the entire Marvel Universe into a self-insert fanfic.

[skalja]

Stuart Immonen and Pete Woods use reference as well to the best of my knowledge, but it's not as obvious because their art is more stylized (especially Immonen's).

[zordboy]

I do like the idea of Quesada as Norman. Just sayin'.

[hurricane-jam.livejournal.com]

Norman's face reflected off of Iron Man is the funniest thing I've seen all day.

No wait. Quesada posing for Norman is the funniest thing I've seen all day.

A+

[autumn_lily]

Gaah! ::falls out chair::

[stubbleupdate]

Re: You go, Joey, coco

[jazzypom]

Heh, that's all the past, now. You're only as good as your last bit of work, and Larroca's stuff has been crap for a very long time.

[une-croix.livejournal.com]

He's one of the best artists in the biz - have some respect.

(also, while I have you, I don't seem to able to post posts after signing in to Dreamwidth using my OpenID - is this normal? Is this correct? I have to pay to join Dreamwidth if I want to do some more of my "Liefeld Mega Posts"?

[skalja]

Hee!

Looks like he changed the expression a bit.

Re: You go, Joey, coco

[bj_l]

Wouldn't know, as far as I'm concerned he hasn't worked since Milligans run, really.

[lamashtar]

Just because he's a decent artist doesn't mean he's not special as an editor-in-chief.

[lamashtar]

Yeah, kinda goes from "I've a spot on my shirt" to "Delightful! A hole in my chest!"

[lamashtar]

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[sir_mikael]

So Norman is pointing at Iron Man and shrieking of terror, is that it? Cus the pointing thing... is weird.