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More from The Filth. Greeting you at the door, it's the corrupting meme that walks like a man: Spartacus Hughes.

This is the Libertania. It's a huge ship designed as a floating nation. The president of the US is visiting, and tension is brewing between the upper & lower decks. Now watch everything go to Hell.

That singing in the last bit? That's the president.
This, by the way, is the experiment Morrison is referencing.

(c)2002 Grant Morrison & Chris Weston.

Date: 2010-01-23 02:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thosefew
...and then they're stopped by the Crimson Permanent Assurance.

Date: 2010-01-23 04:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ulf_boehnke
They will have to deal with the Singapore Navy first.

Date: 2010-01-23 06:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blakeyrat
Why would you build a nation in a giant ship, and then park it in another nation's sovereign waters?

Date: 2010-01-23 06:57 pm (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
The ship is actually outside Venice, and picking up fuel and supplies. Also, the inhabitants get to stroll outside, which is something.

Date: 2010-01-23 07:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blakeyrat
Yah but what happens when one sovereign nation is *inside* another? That's just mind-bending... the customs situation alone. I guess this alternate reality has laws put in place for that situation.

Date: 2010-01-25 03:07 am (UTC)
lamashtar: Shun the nonbelievers! Shun-na! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Why did you have to make it dirty for me..

Date: 2010-01-23 06:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] foxhack
What the fuck is going --

Grant Morrison


Date: 2010-01-23 07:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glprime

It's halfway amusing and halfway annoying when his love of chaos magic intertwines with dropping some references to real-world sociology/anthropology/psychology. If I shut my brain off, fun can be had. If I remember actually learning about some of these concepts, then everything just strikes me as ridiculously silly.

But then my logic and cynicism are like a fucking sword and shield these days. Makes fantasy stories hard to read sometimes.

Date: 2010-01-23 07:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] foxhack
Eh, I don't hate Morrison, sometimes he can write the most awesome stuff that everyone can get... and then there's stuff like this. Maybe the ideas are awesome, but all I see are WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS. Even Chris Claremont goes "Dude, stop it!"

Date: 2010-01-24 10:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glprime
No, it's less the direct application in the story, more how Morrison's approach to the above mentioned disciplines (and how they work) is colored by his perception of information and language as an outgrowth/related medium of chaos magic.

To me, he's saying, "you can do this, this, and this with these things," and I'm thinking, "it doesn't really work like that."

But again, when a writer has a world where abstract concepts "living things", the traditional viewpoints don't really apply. But that's how I'm used to using them, so letting the narrative flow is difficult.

Date: 2010-01-23 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I haven't read this, but from what I understand, this Spartacus guy's some weird magical anarchist--Tyler Durden on crack--and his stepping on Libertania is what sets the powder-keg that was going on before to fully explode into chaos.


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