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The aftermath of bringing back the body in the bat-suit outfit.IGN has the preview. One page behind the cut

The solicit.

    Part 3 of "Blackest Knight" guest-starring Batwoman, Knight and Squire!

    Only months into his new role as Batman, Dick Grayson faces perhaps the biggest threat of his life. In hopes of attaining his heart's desire, has Dick instead unleashed a terror the likes of which the world has never seen?

    Meanwhile, back in Gotham City, Alfred and a recuperating Robin are at the mercy of someone both fearsome and familiar…

his heart's desire? More running around in your underwear with Bruce?!

And unless who ever just got resurrected can fly like Superman, that must be Hush. But I may be wrong....

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title: Batman and Robin
char: Dick Grayson/Nightwing (and no, I STILL can't see him as Batman)
char: Damien Wayne (see above for Robin)
writer: Grant Morrison
art: Cameron Stewart

Date: 2010-02-17 11:06 pm (UTC)
protogarrett: (Default)
From: [personal profile] protogarrett
Who is the old school dark knight and his squire? I've never seen them before and now they're best buds of mainstream bad-clan?

Date: 2010-02-17 11:20 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
They're Knight and Squire, from the 'Club of Heroes' or as it's more commonly known the "Batmen of all Nations".

The first Knight started as sidekick to Shining Knight, then spun off to become a Batman ripoff with his son, the Squire. The father was killed by their arch villain, so this Knight is the son, who has his own Squire.

Pretty much, they're Batman and Robin, but British. Last seen they helped out against Grodd/were in the Ultramarine Corps in JLA Classified. They don't show up much but that's because they're presumed to be fighting crime in England.

Date: 2010-02-17 11:27 pm (UTC)
sarno001: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sarno001
They were part of that Network thing in the Battle for the Cowl arc, weren't they? I vaguely recall Tim flirting with Squire.

Date: 2010-02-17 11:50 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Ah, they might've been.

Date: 2010-02-18 05:38 am (UTC)
iesika: (Default)
From: [personal profile] iesika
Tim and Beryl bonded a bit in the Club of Heroes arc, when they... oh hell, trying to explain the bizarre set up would be way more difficult than just finding the scans...


Date: 2010-02-17 11:46 pm (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
The Father-Knight was more killed due to lack of confidence from the Black Glove ruining his career. Springheel Jack merely struck the killing blow.

Date: 2010-02-18 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
They also appeared after the JLA Classified in Morrison's Batman run, including the story that reintroduced the Club of Heroes proper as well as during RIP.

Date: 2010-02-18 06:18 am (UTC)
candidevoltaire: (Default)
From: [personal profile] candidevoltaire
And they're in London, right? (You'd think London was the entirety of England, let alone the UK. *grumblegrumblegrumble*)

Date: 2010-02-18 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I don't think it's ever clearly mentioned where they're based. I mean, Morrison's Scottish, so he knows the regionalism issues.

A couple of issues back on this he introduced two supervillains, Old King Coal and the Pearly King, who are locked into a North versus South crime family war. I may heart him forever if those guys actually manage to stick.

Date: 2010-02-19 04:35 am (UTC)
candidevoltaire: (Default)
From: [personal profile] candidevoltaire
Oh, really? Old King Coal and the Pearly King sound like they have some real potential to me. I'm going to have to see about getting that issue. I definitely want them to stick if they are as awesome as they sound.

Date: 2010-02-19 03:55 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
It wouldn't surprise me, but right now it's unspecificed, he might travel around.

Date: 2010-02-17 11:28 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
heh, he's fairly cavalier about OD'ing her.

true he knew he could bring her back, but still...

did they ever establish who was in the batsuit? Jean-Paul?

Date: 2010-02-17 11:48 pm (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
One of the many Bat-Clones created in Final Crisis by Mokkari, hence the lack of eyes when Superman picked it up in the penultimate issue. Once they'd clawed their own eyes out in horror at Batman's despair-filled existence, Darkseid decided to keep one because he could use it later.

I'm hoping that the 'Seid turns out to be the big bad behind even the Black Glove itself, it'd make a whole lotta sense.

Date: 2010-02-18 02:19 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
That clever SOB. He's been carefully weaving this all this time.

Wait, then...again, that corpse gets around, because as we know it's been also mutilated in BLACKEST NIGHT. Are we using Brave & Bold continuity rules again then?

Date: 2010-02-18 12:00 pm (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
Presumably when the Black Racer got him, 'Seid gave up all his property to either death or anyone on Earth who could clean up after him. Or perhaps, as has also been theorised, he has control of the Black Glove AND Black Hand in tandem.

Date: 2010-02-18 12:01 pm (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
In fact, for that matter, why is there not a BL Darkseid? Because he's behind the entire business, or his lack of remains?

Date: 2010-02-17 11:28 pm (UTC)
sarno001: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sarno001
And unless who ever just got resurrected can fly like Superman, that must be Hush. But I may be wrong....

Bat-Corpse stole Dick's plane and flew back to Gotham at the end of #8.

Date: 2010-02-17 11:29 pm (UTC)
punishermax: (Default)
From: [personal profile] punishermax
I hope it's just some random dude.

Date: 2010-02-18 04:05 am (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
I'm just amuse that bruce/batman got a evil clone running around now. :P

Date: 2010-02-17 11:35 pm (UTC)
yaseen101: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaseen101
Regarding this whole mess, I thought this was insight on what hell is happening here:

It makes sense but that doesn't mean I like it.

Date: 2010-02-17 11:35 pm (UTC)
simiansyndicate: (pic#365924)
From: [personal profile] simiansyndicate
Um, wow. I mean, damn. I'm surprised this isn't getting more press, because for what seemed like such a character with great potential, to have her go out like that (and by those particular means)...crap.

Date: 2010-02-18 12:41 am (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
Not getting a lot press because nobody believes it. DC just solicited the first two Batwoman arcs in a hardcover edition for May and Rucka/JHW III are getting a solo Batwoman title later this year. Which takes away any suspense about this so called "death" - especially since they're right next to a Lazarus Pit. But what can you do - it's Morrison, DC lets him do what he wants.

Date: 2010-02-18 08:37 pm (UTC)
halloweenjack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
Even with the Lazarus Pit, I'm still all WTF Morrison. On the positive side, I'm off the fence as to whether to get the trade of this.

Date: 2010-02-18 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
It's because it's totally not going to last. Dollars to doughnuts she gets ressurected the next page after the one in this post.

Date: 2010-02-17 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Damnit, now I can't get that song out of my head!


Date: 2010-02-17 11:41 pm (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
Batwoman's dead? Aww, just when she had her own thing going.

Date: 2010-02-18 12:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] benicio127
I am liking this particular arc less and less. So now Dick puts not one but TWO people into the Laz Pit? And it's A-OK to do so?

And just... Welp, Batwoman's dead, let's toss her in the Laz Pit, no big whoop!

...........WTF. Morrison, I try to defend you....

Date: 2010-02-18 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Well, for the record, that's not really all that uncommon. A fair number of reasonably well-known heroes, including Wonder Woman, have taken a dip in the Pit and have come out of it with no ill side-effects except a brief period of 'RAWRR I AM CAH-RAZY!' The objections people have to its use are moral, not practical - it really works quite well.

Date: 2010-02-18 12:09 am (UTC)
sistermagpie: Classic magpie (Default)
From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
Dick'll be selling tickets to the Lazarus Pit next: You want to die and come back via that Laz Pit? Gutsy! I'm on board!

Here's the thing, though. Isn't the pit supposed to cure your injuries? Why does she have to die?

Date: 2010-02-18 12:39 am (UTC)
katzedecimal: Is me, by me. I drawed it. (Default)
From: [personal profile] katzedecimal
Well... I know it resurrects the dead.... maybe they don't want to know what happens if you resurrect the dead while they're still alive? Yeah, I got nuffin.

Date: 2010-02-18 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Wonder Woman has taken a dip in the Pit as a last-ditch cure for a fatal wound, and after a brief period of 'AAAH DON'T COME NEAR ME, I'M CRAZY AND HATE YOU ALL', she doesn't seem to have been harmed too much by it.

Date: 2010-02-18 06:57 am (UTC)
katzedecimal: Is me, by me. I drawed it. (Default)
From: [personal profile] katzedecimal
Possibly Wonder Woman is a special case, given she was made of clay and magicked into flesh by the gods. But then again, it's the DCU...

Date: 2010-02-18 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Possibly. I'm just saying that the Laz Pit is not ALWAYS a one-way trip to Bad Newsville - people have used it as a miracle cure more than once.

Date: 2010-02-18 12:40 am (UTC)
katzedecimal: Alibi's rat Piper smiling from his hammock. So cuuuuuuuute!!!!! (ratvatar)
From: [personal profile] katzedecimal
PS, I really like the mental image of Dick selling tickets to the Pit. He could have a sign next to it, "You must be this tall to enter the Lazarus Pit."

Date: 2010-02-18 01:54 am (UTC)
star_of_airdrie: (batmandeadbatman)
From: [personal profile] star_of_airdrie
Dick'll be selling tickets to the Lazarus Pit next: You want to die and come back via that Laz Pit? Gutsy! I'm on board!

Good idea - I'd be an updated version of the movie 'Flatliners'!

Date: 2010-02-18 08:38 pm (UTC)
halloweenjack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
I read "Laz Pit" as "Lazy Pit", and given how it's being used as a plot device, that's just about right.

Date: 2010-02-18 12:40 am (UTC)
kingrockwell: he's a sexy (Buddy Baker)
From: [personal profile] kingrockwell
So when did they change it so that Lazarus Pits could be used more than once? That's always been a pretty big rule with them.

I figured Kate was just faking so the coal-types would think they'd won.
This arc is stupid.

Date: 2010-02-18 01:55 am (UTC)
star_of_airdrie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] star_of_airdrie
stupid and (for Dick) out-of-character arc

Date: 2010-02-18 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
"So when did they change it so that Lazarus Pits could be used more than once?"

It's not the first time--Rucka did it first in Death in the Maidens, where Nyssa created such a pit and that's how she manipulated Talia to be her slave. As for this, I believe it's been said somewhere that this Pit is something slightly different that Morrison established in the Shining Knight mini of his Seven Soldiers series.

Date: 2010-02-18 02:14 am (UTC)
promethea4: (Default)
From: [personal profile] promethea4
I just don't like this.

I don't believe they're about to kill or permanently injure Batwoman. That, combined with Lazarus Pit contradictions and Dick's judgment calls leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Date: 2010-02-18 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
May I just say that I dislike the fact that the Knight now has a cloak. I mean, I know he's always been a Batman knockoff, but until now he didn't really LOOK like one - now, with those weird ear-like protrusions on his helmet and the bloody cloak flapping around, he does. What happened - did Didio say 'this Knight guy, he's too original-looking. Make him more of a knockoff'?

Date: 2010-02-18 11:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lyraeinne
And here I was hoping that Batwoman's plan somehow involved stopping Batcorpse or the Lazarus Pit or, you know. Actually, anything else going on in the rest of the story. Silly me.

In hopes of attaining his heart's desire,

But on the plus side, even the solicits now ship Bruce/Dick. Woot!


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