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The eight-issue series Black Summer came about from a bet Warren Ellis made with a friend. The challenge was for Ellis to come up with a superhero story that (1) had a sufficiently big plot of the sort you'd see in Marvel and DC's event comics, yet (2) still did something new with the genre. This is what he came up with.

John Horus is the world's most prominent and undoubtedly most powerful superhero. He's just announced that he's killed the President, Vice President, and some of their advisors.

John Horus used to be a member of a group called the Seven Guns. Another member was Tom Noir, who quit after a bomb killed his lover/teammate, Laura, and took half his left leg. He's a vigilante-turned-useless-drunk.

Using that aforementioned brain, along with what's left of his enhancements, Tom's able to kill his would-be killer. He's pretty roughed up himself by the end of the tussle, though.

The rest of the Seven Guns come to shuttle Tom to safety, but that's made difficulty by the military presence amassing in the streets.

After everyone's reached the hideout, there's some arguing about what the next move should be...

tags-- creator: warren ellis, title: black summer, creator: juan jose ryp, publisher: avatar press

Date: 2010-02-19 12:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] euthanatos
I'm not sure how *new* the concept is, but it's pretty ballsy nevertheless. Wouldn't expect anything different from Ellis. This completely went under my radar. I'll have to look into it.

Date: 2010-02-19 07:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
It's not really new at all. Mark Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme miniseries did the same theme in the mid-eighties, albeit with less blood and no F-words (it being a mainstream Marvel comic back in the dying days of the Comics Code Authority), and they didn't kill the President, who was in fact the ex-Batman-analogue.

Date: 2010-02-19 12:04 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Go Go Authority Rangers. You Violent Politician Killing Authority Rangers Go.

Date: 2010-02-19 12:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glimmung
The killing of politicians was not while Ellis was writing the authority.

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Date: 2010-02-19 12:09 am (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
Interesting visual analogues for each of the characters - Artemis is a power ranger, Hyde close to MF Doom.

Furthering the idea of Ellis' bet, I'd call this "Civil War done right".

Date: 2010-02-19 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] shadur
It'd be hard to do CW /worse/ than Marvel handled it in any event. I'm interested in picking this up, but trying to handle the concept of CW better than Marvel did it sounds to me like shooting for the easy targets...

Date: 2010-02-19 12:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Apparently this is part of a trilogy that Ellis is currently writing on the nature of superhumans.

Black Summer is what if superhumans are "too human"

Supergod is if superhumans lacked humanity

And a third one my LCS has but I've seen advertised is about what is superheros were crazy bastards.

Date: 2010-02-19 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zordboy
Haven't we done all that before, though?

Date: 2010-02-19 01:09 am (UTC)
mullon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mullon
The third one sounds redundant.

I think you mixed up a series

Date: 2010-02-19 07:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] strannik01
Not quite. To quote Ellis' post from the now sadly defunct Bad Signal:

Black Summer was about superhumans who were too human. No Hero was about superhumans who were inhuman. Supergod is about superhumans who are no longer human at all, but something else. The third leg of a thematic trilogy if you like./i>

Date: 2010-02-19 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zordboy
Maybe this is me being too cynical -- but there's a part of my brain whispering (quite quietly, I might add), that maybe John Horus had the right idea, even if his methods were a tad extreme.

Date: 2010-02-19 01:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dorksidefiker

I thought that was the point?

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Date: 2010-02-19 12:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanejayell
I liked this book, though I was left thinking 'If you have this kind of power, why kill the President? Why not just reveal the crimes in a way that cannot be buried or concealed?'

Still, good book. And Tom Noir sort of makes that same point later.

Date: 2010-02-19 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
well it looks like he's a mostly physical guy. He doesn't have telepathy and the crimes are only crimes from a certain perspective.

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Date: 2010-02-19 12:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] iskander
Is this the same artist that drew "Heart of the Empire" the sequel to Luther Arkwright ???

Date: 2010-02-19 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] abagnale008
The artwork is very nice.

Date: 2010-02-19 02:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] freezer
This is what he came up with.

He came up with throwing Watchmen, The Authority and a Michael Moore movie into a blender?

Date: 2010-02-19 06:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] adonca
Pretty much this. It just reads too much to me like Ellis' usual cynicism + contempt for the concept of the superhero writ large.

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Date: 2010-02-19 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Giant meh is my reaction. Straw men, ultra violence. I'm beginning to think that I'm the only one who enjoys a balanced debate, or at least an intelligent take down of the other side.

Date: 2010-02-19 02:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] domino_blue
I actually liked this a lot but I will say that it has some part that are more redundant than others, the only problem I have with this story why is it that the Batman like character is always the sane one? I mean Squadron Supreme,that one shot where super's came to the real world, I'm kind of tired of that little cliche is all.

Date: 2010-02-19 03:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sianmink
Tom Noir is just the smartest of the bunch, which really considering the guns isn't very hard. Of course he's going to be the one to figure it out, his coworkers aren't the sharpest folk out there.

Aside from his color choice, I wouldn't consider him very batman-like.

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Date: 2010-02-19 03:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
God, that is painful to look at.

You know, I wasn't a fan of Dubya any more than anyone else, but that didn't mean that he could kill the guy.

Plus the fact that what Horus did sends a message, whether he intended too or not, of "If you don't do things my way I will fucking kill you."

In which case America is not a democracy anymore, its a dictatorship. Because the only thing the new president will do is "whatever the fuck Horus tells me to do."

So way to kill the American dream you dumb fuck. No really, good one man.

Date: 2010-02-19 03:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sianmink
I think Horus knew he was damning himself with the act.

For his actions to mean anything, he just can't be around afterward. He had to know that, and of all the Guns that Tom would have to take him down.

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Date: 2010-02-19 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Wow. I'm just so impressed by all the usual politics and unbridled bad-assery.

This is supposed to be "new" huh?


Date: 2010-02-19 03:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Of course, this always happen when a Republican is in office. Though I ask, why didn't Horus did anything with Elian? I think that would be the straw that break the cammel's back! A kid is forced to leave the country and the government lets it happen... with guns and gas.... on f-ing EASTER morning!

But still, I always wonder how the USA would protect the President from every self-heroic superheroes from coming in with their methods to clean up the country.

Date: 2010-02-19 04:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] domino_blue
well look as much as I hate soapboxing this comic wasn't that bad and let's face it at time half the people I knew hated Bush with a passion and wanted him out so did I, I hated how the war went and the fallout was bad. Beisdes because of it we got a really good comic like Ex Machina.

Date: 2010-02-19 04:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salamangkiero
It reminds me of the King Under the Hill argument: You can wake Arthur up, but then, all the bad comes in along with the good.

Date: 2010-02-19 04:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kingrockwell
If these are from multiple issues, could you please indicate which pages are from which issue?

Date: 2010-02-19 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Are these scans posted anywhere else on the 'net that you know of? Because they look truly awesome, but only two or three of them are showing up properly on my computer - the rest are all stretchy.

Date: 2010-02-19 08:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rhythmbandit
Well, it seems like a fun story to read, even though the concept isn't brand new. Comics that make you think about real-world politics, even if it's all hypothetical situations, are always good.

Date: 2010-10-13 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
FINALLY I can read these. Thank you, march of technology.
While I can't say that I would exactly SUPPORT what John Horus did, were this to take place in real life, I'm not sure I'd vilify him, either. Bush and Cheny were one of the worst things to hit American government since who-knows-when, and the fact that NEITHER of them has gotten so much as a rap on the knuckles for what they did is just sickening. If I were one of the people watching this on TV here, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one who was saying, quietly, out loud or not, 'yeah, I'm not too sorry that this happened'.
So is Kathryn Artemis just a hypocrite, or is she a believer in 'preemptive self-defense', or what? I mean, it's not exactly a boon to the Seven Guns' image if one of them blows a bunch of soldiers to pieces while their current leader talks about how they're NOT going to do that. Did she not get the memo, or what?
I think Frank could have been done better. Just look at the guy in that first panel - you can tell right away that this guy is a bastard. A LITTLE more subtlety wouldn't hurt.
I like John Horus' look. All the white and silver and gold, with the frogging on the front and the Freemason eye-and-pyramid on the back. Those little energy-bubbles are pretty nifty-lookin', too.


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