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I love Ultimate Spider-Man. Especially given the current state of things in the 616 universe, USM has become the 'real' Spidey for me. Say what you will about his other titles, but Bendis on the ball with USM.

So, basically in the aftermath of Ultimatum, being a mutant is illegal. Kitty Pryde finds herself being arrested by federal agents during her class. Kong comes to her aid and Kitty manages to phase both of them under ground.

As a fan of both Kitty (in all her incarnations, from 616 to Ultimate) and Kong (who's such a great supporting character), I love that Bendis has made them a couple and is still finding ways to include Kitty in the title even after she broke up with Spidey.

Later, Spidey, the Human Torch and Iceman (who are all living together under Aunt May's roof) decide to go over to Kitty's house to see if she's there, and...

(If you're confused about Kitty's get-up, read this)

They try to help Kitty, but she's not taking any of it...


...and if you want to find out what happens next, get the issue. Needless to say, things get interesting...

char: human torch/johnny storm, char: iceman/bobby drake, char: kong/kenny mcfarlane, char: shadowcat/kitty pryde, char: spider-man/peter parker, creator: brian michael bendis, creator: david lafuente, publisher: marvel comics, title: ultimate comics spider-man

Date: 2010-05-21 09:05 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
ok... im a little confused.... why is Kitty so pissed at them? and why is she so sweet in one panel and all Dark Phoenix in another?

Date: 2010-05-21 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I hate the whole Magneto was right thing since human stuck up for her

Date: 2010-05-22 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] vitruvian23
Now if you were living in the Ultimate Universe and had lost any family, friends, or acquaintances in Ultimatum, which I'm guessing everybody both human and mutant has, and someone said that Magneto was right, wouldn't the person that said that instantly be dead to you?

Date: 2010-05-22 01:28 am (UTC)
suzene: (Default)
From: [personal profile] suzene
I didn't keep up with Ultimatum, but didn't Magneto's actions directly kill some of Kitty's friends in the X-Men as well?

Date: 2010-05-22 01:36 am (UTC)
blake_reitz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blake_reitz
It might seem odd for Kitty to be shouting "Magneto was right!", but in the context of the issue, it's pretty clear she's just lashing out against the friends she feels betrayed her, not agreeing with the whims of a mass murderer.

Think of it more as "LEAVE HULK ALONE OR HULK SMASH!"

Date: 2010-05-21 09:23 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Presumably because when the Government guys came for her, they didn't stand up for her.

Date: 2010-05-21 09:29 pm (UTC)
terrykun: (zach pimp hat)
From: [personal profile] terrykun
Also, to clarify, the fire is from Johnny being sent crashing into things and vehicles being smashed, not from Kitty.

Date: 2010-05-21 10:50 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mullon
Of course, if Magneto found out Kitty wasdating Kong, there would be blood everywhere.

Date: 2010-05-21 11:15 pm (UTC)
milleniumrex: (Default)
From: [personal profile] milleniumrex
Dear Bendis,

I really do like this book. It's one of my favorites.

But saying "Magneto was right" in the Ultimate Universe has a very different connotation than saying it in the 616.

Date: 2010-05-22 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] vitruvian23
Exactly, because it condones mass murder on a scale never seen before. How many people were supposed to have died in Ultimatum, exactly?

Date: 2010-05-22 01:04 am (UTC)
milleniumrex: (Default)
From: [personal profile] milleniumrex
Over a million in New York alone, no idea about the rest of the world.

Not to mention that in Ultimate X-men he perpetrated countless brutal terror attacks against civilians.

Date: 2010-05-22 01:14 am (UTC)
cmdr_zoom: (oops)
From: [personal profile] cmdr_zoom
At the risk of invoking Godwin...

Date: 2010-05-22 02:12 am (UTC)
halialkers: The daemon-sultan at the nuclear chaos (Abraxas)
From: [personal profile] halialkers
There aren't 22+ million people in Manhattan last I checked.....

Date: 2010-05-22 01:16 am (UTC)
halialkers: The daemon-sultan at the nuclear chaos (Abraxas)
From: [personal profile] halialkers
As opposed to 616 where he did such minor trivialities as shut down all electronics the world over, you mean?

Date: 2010-05-22 01:17 am (UTC)
milleniumrex: (Default)
From: [personal profile] milleniumrex
Yeah, that's still quite a bit different from attempting global genocide and succeeding in killing untold millions.

Date: 2010-05-22 01:21 am (UTC)
halialkers: The daemon-sultan at the nuclear chaos (Abraxas)
From: [personal profile] halialkers
So he didn't end up collapsing X number of planes and untold number of catastrophes that could come from a global collapse of all electricity worldwide?

Date: 2010-05-22 02:05 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Not to mention that if he put out the transformer hubs with that stunt then, well, those can only be replaced at the rate of 2-3 a year. And there's nearly a thousand, iirc, in just US of A. So the electric grid wouldn't be coming back for a while.

Okay, in a world with Reed Richards those stats are probably a lot better, but Mag's little tantrum might have had quite a bit more lasting effects if the writers had really gone into the repercussions of messing with the magnetic field at that level.

Date: 2010-05-22 02:10 am (UTC)
halialkers: The daemon-sultan at the nuclear chaos (Abraxas)
From: [personal profile] halialkers
Leaving aside what the sudden blast of solar radiation absent the magnetic field would do to all life on the planet. A huge burst of UV rays or what have you? Magneto technically right there just caused the P-T boundary mass extinction all over again......

Date: 2010-05-22 02:14 am (UTC)
halialkers: The daemon-sultan at the nuclear chaos (Abraxas)
From: [personal profile] halialkers
To make that last sentence a little clearer-I'm referring to the Permian-Triassic Mass Extinction, aka the One Extinction to Rule them All. A gamma-ray burst.

Date: 2010-05-24 09:44 pm (UTC)
ext_412773: (pic#431323)
From: [identity profile]
Okay, I'll grant you that. But how does gravity work?

Date: 2010-05-22 06:40 pm (UTC)
flint_marko: (Magneto)
From: [personal profile] flint_marko
He only did that to deactivate the satellites the UN put up to prevent him from returning to Earth.

Date: 2010-05-22 11:45 am (UTC)
valtyr: (Default)
From: [personal profile] valtyr
Isn't Kitty like, sixteen and being constantly bullied and now fleeing for her survival? I don't think we're suppose to think she's right. She's not going to be making rational and mature assessments right now.

Date: 2010-05-22 02:09 am (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
Something I've been wondering about for a while. Why does Bendis write shouting dialogue with two exclamation points? Two just looks odd. Exclamation points should be like ellipses, with three being the rule for shouting. Am I the only one who feels this way?

Date: 2010-05-22 02:10 am (UTC)
halialkers: J. Edgar Hoover, right profile view. Receding hair line, short nose, beady eyes (Agati)
From: [personal profile] halialkers
At Scans_Daily, it's never just you.

Date: 2010-05-22 02:27 am (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (spider-man: gwen eyebrow)
From: [personal profile] skalja
I agree with you that Bendis using two exclamation marks is weird, but three is most certainly not the rule for shouting. They're called exclamation marks because they're used to suggest strong emphasis or shouting -- more than one isn't just redundant, it's sloppy excess. Or, to quoth the Pratchett, "Multiple exclamation marks ... are the sure sign of a diseased mind."

Date: 2010-05-22 06:17 am (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
It was like five or six exclamation marks that are the sign of a diseased mind. Pratchett's got no problem with goin' threesies.

Date: 2010-05-22 07:24 am (UTC)
slippy: (ygo] o pegasus. you card)
From: [personal profile] slippy
I think three signifies that you're borderline. When you're hitting five and up, it's over.

Date: 2010-05-22 05:29 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (Default)
From: [personal profile] skalja
No, my quote is exact apart from the ellipsis -- he's reused it multiple times.

Date: 2010-05-22 03:36 am (UTC)
thosefew: bored death (Default)
From: [personal profile] thosefew
"We were just dunked in sewage! Let's kiss!"

Date: 2010-05-22 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I was thinking the same thing. If I were in that situation, I'd be like, "Okay, front street--did you swallow any of the sewage?"

Date: 2010-05-22 03:51 am (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
*Looks at Kitty*

.....What's wrong with your face?

Date: 2010-05-22 09:09 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Last I saw, it was just illegal to use your powers. We have any scans around of when simply being a mutant became full-on illegal?

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

Date: 2010-05-22 07:02 pm (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Right, that part I remember. Am I misreading the post? I mean, will they arrest you now for just being a mutant?

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

Date: 2010-05-24 11:26 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
Yes. The school officials were kind of covering for Kitty to let her go to school before.

Date: 2010-05-24 07:44 pm (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Ah, that would seem to explain it. Thanks.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

Date: 2010-05-22 06:16 pm (UTC)
philippos42: zat's bunny (comedy)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
Wait, isn't Kong the self-insert? Creep.

I thought those were cameras on the cover at first. That is a classic "microphones in the face" shot, it sorta works with cameras, kind of looks silly with guns.

Date: 2010-05-22 06:41 pm (UTC)
flint_marko: (Spider-Man)
From: [personal profile] flint_marko
Wait, isn't Kong the self-insert? Creep.

I don't think he is. Kong started out as a bully like Flash, and he's still kind've stupid.

Date: 2010-05-24 02:35 am (UTC)
mcity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mcity
Kitty's outfit has a lot of straps and zippers. Who does she think she is, a Tetsuya Nomura character?

Date: 2010-05-24 01:43 pm (UTC)
comicoz: Really, 99 of them (Default)
From: [personal profile] comicoz
It's the Ultimate universe. Where's 80/90's "X-treme style" goes to lick its wounds.

Date: 2010-05-24 01:44 pm (UTC)
comicoz: Really, 99 of them (Default)
From: [personal profile] comicoz
I liked her new power, or new aspect of her made logical sense.


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