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goggle_kid ([personal profile] goggle_kid) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2010-06-07 02:20 am

More DC Race Fail

Dave Brothers Beat Me To This One

More of Ian Sattler at the the Heroes Con DC Nation panel.

"A serious topic came up about how characters who are minorities who happened to be legacy characters like Ryan Choi are killed off so their caucasian counterparts can return and how they feel like they are being cheated or sidelined out of their roles. Sattler took a more serious tone. "It's so hard for me to be on the other side because it's not our intention. There is a reason behind it all. We don't see it that way and strive very hard to have a diverse DCU. I mean, we have green, pink, and blue characters. We have the Great Ten out there and I have counter statistics, but I won't get into that. It's not how we perceived it. We get the same thing about how we treat our female characters."

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[identity profile] stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Look, let's just both drop it and walk away. Neither of us seem to have a handle on what the other is trying to say, so any further discussion is truly pointless.

[personal profile] theanswer 2010-06-07 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well no, I have firm handle on what you were saying. You were just wrong and I pointed that out and proved it.
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[identity profile] stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You didn't prove I was wrong the first time, because me saying I'm entertained by DC fucking up is not an argument.

You didn't prove I was wrong, because none of the "gaffes" at Marvel that you mentioned have been a systematic, near-unanimous accusation of racism, myopia, and toxic nostalgia.

You haven't proved anything, except maybe that we both have too much free time.
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[personal profile] divi_d 2010-06-07 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, guys? Not to be a butinsky, but I really don't see where this argument is going at this point.

Yes, theanswer, we already know you think you proved his point wrong (and, by extension, that would also mean we already know you think you know what he's talking about). Stating it again doesn't really provide anything new, other than maybe to turn your argument into an ad-nauseum tactic (SP). (For the record, BTW, it does kinda look to me more like you actually did miss the original point rather than actually prove anything wrong, but this argument has gotten so damn long that I admit I may just have lost track of what's what.)

Yes, Stolisomancer, we know you don't feel this way. Havn't you actually tried to withdraw from this conversation twice now (I don't mean this in a patrinising way, mind you. I think I've been down this ally many a time myself, actually XD)?

Yeah, I know, it's really none of my bussiness, but it is kinda getting ridiculous, and while I'm hardly going to pretend I have the right to demand you guys stop arguing, I am kinda getting genuinely curious what, if anything, either of you think you can possibly accomplish at this point...
Edited 2010-06-07 20:15 (UTC)
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[identity profile] stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I should've stopped talking a long time ago, but last night I couldn't sleep and this morning I'm trying to avoid a boring project.
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[personal profile] divi_d 2010-06-07 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] autolychus2 2010-06-08 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
No, you didn't. Stolis is right.

[personal profile] theanswer 2010-06-08 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
No, he is not.