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Marvel: 1602 is one of the few comics that I found not through S_D, but through an internet search on the lost colony of Roanoke. Virginia Dare, the first English child born in the New World is a major character in this 8-part series, with the ability to shift into animals (based on this legend). The history nerd in me absolutely adores this. Another semi-historical tale, Superman: Red Son, is perhaps my second favorite Elseworld.

The premise of Marvel:1602 is that the heroes from the regular Marvel Universe are transplanted into the year 1602, just as Queen Elizabeth I lay dying and King James of Scotland set to take the throne. We meet familiar-yet-not characters such as Sir Nicholas Fury, the Queen's spymaster, Doctor Stephen Strange, the Queen's physician, Peter Parquagh, Carlos Javier and his school for sons of gentlefolk, the Four from the Fantastick, David Banner, Grand Inquisitor Enrique, aided by Sister Wanda and Petros, and Otto von Doom.

Here is a teaser showing us these characters from the first issue (4 pages):

Also there are dinosaurs.

Date: 2010-08-27 01:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] neuhallidae
There's so much to love about 1602, but I agree with comments in an earlier post that this was one of Clea's best incarnations ever. The part where with the head was like a punch in the chest.

Date: 2010-08-27 01:53 am (UTC)
halialkers: Evil smile, skull with grin from both sides of the face (Keshregati Metrevan)
From: [personal profile] halialkers
Damn straight. This is one of the only Elseworld tales I own and I disregard its sequels.

Date: 2010-08-27 01:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
This is very awsome. :)

Date: 2010-08-27 02:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanejayell
LOVED 1602, the sequels not so much.

Date: 2010-08-27 02:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] neuhallidae
The last issue was a biiiiig example of rush-job, or at least I felt so. It could have been much better with the setup it was given.

Date: 2010-08-27 03:05 am (UTC)
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Date: 2010-08-27 05:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradhanon
The reveal about Native-Cap was one of the most perfect revelations I've seen in comics, honestly. A shift in body language and one spoken line tells you everything, but at the same time opens up a whole new section of questions. Best of all, when you look back over it, the revelation is totally fair and even set up. It's not so much the clues Gaiman gave us as the ones he DIDN'T give us, but I was kicking myself for not seeing it coming. It was beautifully played.

Date: 2010-08-27 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
That's the best kind of twist. It's like the one (major) one in RahXephon: You'd NEVER see it coming, but when it come you'll kick yourself for no doing so.

Date: 2010-08-27 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I liked 1602 well enough, but I always have... Issues with Gaiman's take of the 17th century. He seems so in love with the aesthethic that he misses the point y'know?

Date: 2010-08-27 09:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
What would the point be? (Genuine question) The story seemed to have an awareness of the history, society and politics of the time, filtered through comic book science.

Date: 2010-08-27 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Yes and no. It's not just "filtered through comic-book science" but filtered through a very... Popular history kind of understanding.

The Inquisition doesen't really work as depicted in most fictional works, for instance (and incidentally was singularly uninterested in burning witches) he's always very anglocentric (mostly I suspect because he's such a huge Shakespeare fanboy) and of course there's the ending: Which paints a kind of unfortunate teleology onto history.

Date: 2010-08-27 08:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] requiem2adream
he's always very anglocentric (mostly I suspect because he's such a huge Shakespeare fanboy)

Or because he's English, maybe?

Date: 2010-08-27 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
The two aren't exactly unrelated, but then again, not really. He does a lot of non-anglo stuff in other time-periods.

Date: 2010-08-27 09:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I particularly liked 1602 Reed Richard essentially developing the entirety of natural philosophy because he was stuck with nothing better to do, and that he picked the Knights of the Round Table to name the fields after, tying them in with the legends of the knights.

Date: 2010-08-27 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Agreed - 1602 is awesome stuff. I haven't read the sequels, but I greatly enjoyed the original.

Date: 2010-08-27 10:28 pm (UTC)
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There are no sequals unless they are written by Gaiman!*

*Much as I love 1602 the follow ups where flaky.

Date: 2010-08-27 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
That's a shame - there was a lot of follow-up potential in the original.

Date: 2010-08-27 11:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pallas_athena
I love 1602 for the period sensibility and especially the art. Also, because it does the impossible and makes Daredevil cool. Seriously, Daredevil makes King James the Sixth and First shit himself. How awesome is that?

(Doesn't have a whole 1602 Nightcrawler story mapped out in her head, no, that must be someone else...)

Date: 2010-08-27 11:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile]
Does the impossible? Daredevil is always cool.

Date: 2010-08-27 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jaysonbyron
1602 remains the only graphic novel I make a point to not box up and closet. It's just so damn good.

The sequels, at least the one(s?) I've read, are... well, not BAD, per say. They just don't have the feet to fill these rather large shoes.

Date: 2010-08-27 07:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
most amusing thing about 1602's Otto von Doom's name?

the fact that its Doctor Octopus was Victor Octavius.


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