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This one comes from The Haunt of Fear #26.

The Old Witch introduces us to Martin Saunders, who is stuck in an unhappy relationship with his wife.

The narration explains how Martin and his wife are cut off from the rest of their friends and family, their house a "cave in the heart of the big city". It asks Martin, why doesn't he just leave her? Martin thinks of killing her, but realizes that is impossible. He thinks back to five years ago, and how he planned on killing her then...

Eva interrupts Martin from his thoughts, and tells him it's time to go to bed. Martin tells her to have pity on him, but Eva responds that they're married, and she never used to have a problem before...

I'm confused

Date: 2010-10-07 04:05 am (UTC)
roguefankc: Leomon (Default)
From: [personal profile] roguefankc
First, thanks for these scans. EC scary stories are pretty awesome.

But...I'm a little confused with the logic in the last panel. So if I got this straight, if Martin leaves Eva, she'll follow him and the police upon seeing her will realize that she's been murdered, correct?

I'm confused on how the police seeing Eva back as a zombie will instantly lead them to the realization that Martin deliberately loosened the bolts under the balcony and caused her to fall to her death? I would think if anything, the police would be more concerned about a living corpse:

Eva: Look at me! Martin killed me!
Police: Oh, look, a zombie! Well, she's back to life, so she must be telling the truth. The law says any testimony from a zombie is irrefutable! Arrest Martin ASAP! Don't worry lady zombie, you'll get your justice!

Re: I'm confused

Date: 2010-10-07 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
I think the implication is that what he's 'imagining' in that second-to-last scan actually happened - she DID fall onto the fence, the cops DID investigate, and he DID get off scott-free - but now that she's back, she can give her own side of the story to the cops, and since they've already dealt with all the evidence once, they can match up what they know to what she tells them and arrest Martin for murder. I mean, the spouse is always the first suspect in these matters, so there's probably still a few cops muttering about how they KNOW it's that bastard Saunders, but there's no evidence... If they could get testimony from the actual VICTIM, that should be enough to at least put him away on suspicion of the deed.

Re: I'm confused

Date: 2010-10-07 08:04 am (UTC)
houbanaut: (Default)
From: [personal profile] houbanaut
Maybe this is too radical a reading of the text, but would it make sense that it's all in his mind? That guilt has driven him insane and he now lives alone in a rotting mansion, only imagining his dead wife is there with him?

Re: I'm confused

Date: 2010-10-07 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
I suppose there's nothing in the text that necessarily condemns that reading of things, but I'm not sure there's much to support it, either. Besides, look at how he's portrayed in the flashbacks - he's not just unrepentant about killing his wife, he's GLEEFUL about it. I don't think this guy is the 'haunted by his conscience' type.

Re: I'm confused

Date: 2010-10-07 06:44 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
but now that she's back, she can give her own side of the story to the cops,

That's the bit she'd have trouble with, since she WAS dead, signed and notarised and medically authenticated, so was presumably autopsied and buried. She'd have no legal standing and any lawyer would make mincemeat of any attempt to use HER, never mind the possibility of double jepoardy jf he was tried before.

Re: I'm confused

Date: 2010-10-07 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
That's debatable. There ARE laws on the books, I think - ancient, ancient laws, that haven't been used in several hundred years, but still - that allow 'ghostly evidence' in court. It used to be fairly common, back when people were a lot more credulous about such things, to claim that fresh evidence had come up because 'a ghost had led me to it', or some such stuff. Naturally, nobody has done this in a long, long time, but I'm not sure whether that means that the rules allowing such things have been stricken from the books, or simply lying long-forgotten in the dusty corners of some obscure lawbook. The latter isn't inconceivable; there are still laws in some Southern states that permit witch-burning, after all. Assuming for the moment that this IS the case, a clever attorney could probably dig this out of the books and get the judge to buy it, which would mean the courts would HAVE to accept her testimony as legal.

Re: I'm confused

Date: 2010-10-09 11:27 pm (UTC)
halloweenjack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
See also the issue of Slott's She-Hulk in which it's established that ghosts can testify in court; of course, that's in a universe in which literally every other person was temporarily dead, thanks to Thanos, but still. I think that it's more likely that the cops would simply re-open the case and examine the forensic evidence at the scene a lot more closely, given the new information that they should have.

Re: I'm confused

Date: 2010-10-09 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Quite possibly, yes. The point is that the wife has the power to tip off the cops that there may have been more to the case than they thought.

Date: 2010-10-07 04:16 am (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
Yet another reason to avoid marriage!

Date: 2010-10-07 05:27 am (UTC)
ladydreamer: Woman in near profile holds a long handheld gun up with dramatic lighting. (Dragon Tongue)
From: [personal profile] ladydreamer
Well, geez, if she'd just wear some damn lipstick, right? Crazy zombie dames.

Cook your own damn food. You murdered me. :(

Date: 2010-10-07 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Well, THAT'S kind of... icky. I mean, the guy deserved punishment, but ye gods, what a fate - having to live in putrefying squalor, eat rotten food and (it's implied) basically be forced to be a necrophiliac for the rest of your life. Blecch. I think I'll go take a shower.

Date: 2010-10-07 06:05 am (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
Eeeeew yuck! But awesome story. :)

Date: 2010-10-07 07:46 am (UTC)
seriousfic: (Default)
From: [personal profile] seriousfic
So he has to put up with the horrid living conditions, terrible food, and sex he doesn't want to have... or he'd have to go to jail?


Date: 2010-10-07 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
That, or he might get the electric chair. He DID kill his wife, after all.

Date: 2010-10-07 08:47 am (UTC)
althechi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] althechi
I think I read an issue of the Phantom Stranger with essentially the same plot as this one, except the guy's old wife's ghost (and the Stranger) torment his new marriage. That one was a tad more logical, in my opinion.

Date: 2010-10-07 09:35 am (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
My first thought was, "Honestly, she's not THAT ugly" but then, "Oh. Well yeah, I guess the dead thing might put you off. Uh huh."

Date: 2010-10-07 02:44 pm (UTC)
sistermagpie: Moon magic (Moon)
From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
Go Eva.

You know, reading this story now I find myself feeling like I'm watching an episode of Hoarders.

Date: 2010-10-07 03:57 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Yoshikage Kira as Kosaku Kawajiri, after the second arrow. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
it's like a twisted version of The Chaser, in a way.

(EC's variant, Loved to Death, was fun; guy accidentally takes the poison at the end, but isn't too sad in the afterlife: " Oh, well! At least I'm free of her! ")

Date: 2010-10-08 04:18 am (UTC)
meatwhichdreams: (Default)
From: [personal profile] meatwhichdreams

oh EC sound effects, how I love you! :D

But jeeez....does anyone think that perhaps this author had a few issues around marriage?

Date: 2010-10-09 11:27 pm (UTC)
halloweenjack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
Christ, what an asshole.


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