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Niles Caulder + Kryptonian powers + a smidge of insanity = ?

Imbuing himself with the full Kryptonian power set has driven the Chief a little crazy. It's a lot like that scene in Superman IV: The Quest for Peace where Superman goes in front of the U.N. and declares that he's going to get rid of all the world's nukes. Only here, Niles does it, and instead of the delegates giving a standing ovation like in that movie, everyone starts freaking out.

Just a little crazy.

OK, that's a weird arrangement

Date: 2010-10-07 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
On that last line: Freaky teeth, Cliff, bandage face. I was wondering why Rita was a vampire.

Date: 2010-10-07 05:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thokstar
You've got three full pages, and then also a set of panels from 3 other pages that are both slight more than a full page and also seem to miss the point of the four page limit.

I'm not a mod, but that cut and pasting doesn't seem legal to me.

Date: 2010-10-07 08:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] geoffsebesta
Er...why on earth should cutting and pasting be a problem?

Date: 2010-10-07 06:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
Ambush bug was great in this issue. :)

Date: 2010-10-07 06:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jlroberson
So, this is the first time we've seen "Larry" without the bandages, isn't it?

It's interesting that at this point, the entire Doom Patrol are basically disembodied intelligences in modified or artificial bodies. It's almost like Niles was taking his crippling out on all three of them--originally what happened to Rita, after all, was just that he took away control of her body, long before she became "plastic girl." That's enough of a connection. Larry's body was permanently taken from him for anything normal by the invasion and possession of the Negative Spirit, who now IS "Larry"(going from host body to host body, because Larry is long since dead--leading me to wonder, what happened to the female doctor, whom we never really found out about at all, who was part of Rebis?) much as the Swamp Thing was Alec Holland, which is to say, the consciousness template but not the person. Cliff, whom he always called his favorite, especially: as he called himself once, "a complete amputee," and far more now than before if they kept the fact that Cliff is now a data intelligence backed up on discs, after Grant Morrison.

I just hope Caulder is finally dead. I've been reading DP in various forms since I was a wee kid, and what always struck me over time was that you can take Caulder as the overall villain of the series, a kind of torturer crossed with mad scientist. That, I think, was a strong innovation Grant brought to the series, revealing their whole existence as part of his experiments with Catastrophe Theory. It brings unity to the thing. And has the benefit of making the crappy runs now and then irrelevant.

I note that as this goes on, Clark starts to loosen up more an d more in the way that Richard Case did. (what happened to Case anyway? One of the most underrated comics artists of the past 20 years)

I like Giffen's run. I like it a lot. He seems to know what makes DP work. This fits in well with Drake and Morrison's runs.


Date: 2010-10-07 06:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jlroberson
>>entire Doom Patrol are basically disembodied intelligences in modified or artificial bodies.

Except Jane and Ambush Bug, but Jane had her own issues of identity and disembodiment or body-altering, and AB is, well, crazy and therefore immune to Caulder.

Date: 2010-10-07 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Yeah, I hope that Chief is finally dead too--I think if I was in the Doom Patrol and he did HALF the shit he did to them, I'd probably murder him in his sleep long before he got infected with the...Kryptonian...thingy.

Date: 2010-10-07 08:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] geoffsebesta
Interesting points.

Yeah, this is a fantastic return to form for Giffen -- I'm tickled pink.

I don't know if you know AB's origin but yeah, it doesn't fit with this theory at all. But he's such a meta-character, who cares. I guess he's disembodied in the sense that he travels from point to point in many universes...

Date: 2010-10-07 06:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jlroberson
It's interesting that the Chief's "favorite" is whomever he's trying to persuade at that moment. He calls Larry that here, he called Cliff that in Morrison's DP.

Date: 2010-10-07 12:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skjam
So, this is the first time we've seen "Larry" without the bandages, isn't it?

In this iteration, yes.

What lay beneath the original Larry's bandages was a big reveal in the original Doom Patrol series and underscored why he considered himself a "freak".

Date: 2010-10-07 06:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jlroberson
And I never saw it. Anyone got scans?

Date: 2010-10-07 06:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] biznizzonpeyote
I love Giffen's run on Doom Patrol. Seriously. And I'm grateful that he didn't shove in any of the forced humor from JLI, Superbuddies, Booster Gold in to this, going with that very dark humor.

Date: 2010-10-11 01:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jlroberson
The Doom Patrol tends to work best when their absolute lack of concern with being liked--because they're freaks and they're fine with it, more or less--is emphasized. I always liked that the rest of the DCU considers them the creepy ones, over there, while their attitude tends to be "Well, we've got each other so they can go fuck themselves." It's their somewhat unfriendly, somewhat bitter sense of the absurd that sets them apart and runs which forget that are the ones that don't stand up, the ones where they try to make them just another group of superheroes.


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