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and God bless them for that! Another couple of episodes of this most magnificent of shows has aired and has a couple of comic-book geek moments making this worthy of a legality post (Anyone notice how most of my legality posts feature "Brave and the Bold", because I just did!)

First up, "Emperor Joker"

The pre-credit sequence has been long promised! A case from the files of the Bat-Computer

I won't spoil the explanation as to why he's wearing the costumes, but it's not the same as the one in the original comic (Which I don't think has been posted here, may have to do something about that)

And yes, they do shake hands a few second later before the titles roll.

Then we get to the episode. There's even a sort of pre-story sequence, with Batman fighting that most terrible of bad guys... The.. ummm... Ten-Eyed Man!

A visiting Bat-Mite is worried for Batman, after all, he's read Ten-Eye'd Man's entry in "DC Who's Who" and knows that he's ex-Special Forces.

And yes, that is what those pages looked lik in that issue... Seriously, the fourth wall isn't so much broken here as crushed underfoot and tap-danced over... I LOVE IT! :)

Bat-Mite shows Batman his shrine to the greatest hero-villain dynamic in history... The more eagle eyed among you will spot one of the most surprising references even THIS show has ever made....

The Joker's Utility Belt (Batman #73) (I now want this scene to made as a collectible )

The Laughing Fish (detective 475)

And.. "A Death in the Family"... Yup, they went there, Bat-Mite even explains the fan's involvement in the fate of Jason Todd (He doesn't say which way HE voted, but I think we can guess from the way he says it)

I never thought I'd see THAT in "The Brave and the Bold". Note that Batman doesn't react to this, he doesn't confirm it, but he doesn't deny it either.

But he has a spare display left, so Bat-Mite "arranges" for Joker and Batman to face off against each other. I love his gang this time, it's been noted that BTAS Joker had henchmen patterned after the Three Stooges.. on mega-steroids. IIRC Cesaer Romero's Joker had a gang patterned after famous silent film stars... Brave and the Bold combines the concepts (as it so often does)

Mr Hardy Mr Arbuckle

Mr Chaplin

Mr Keaton and Mr Lloyd (LOVE that Harold Lloyd gets some respect, a vastly under-rated comedian of the 1920's, more prolific than Chaplin and perhaps Keaton's only true rival in terms of exquisitely timed physical comedy)

And who's the girl? Well, she's not Mabel Normand, but she IS familiar to the Batverse... Yup, meet Brave and the Bold's Harley Quinn! I don't know if she's going to keep that look if she appears again, but I LOVE IT! A black and white Harley constrasts beautifully with the Joker's colourfulness, and the squeaky voice matches the look beautifully.

Shortly thereafter an attempted good deed by Bat-Mite goes awry and the Joker has cosmic powers... which he uses to upgrade his costime and indule his favourite passtime... devising deaths for Batman, but the difference is that here he can do it again, and again and again... (It's more than a little macabre to be honest, but in a Joker-ish way) 

Oh, and he also conjures up a genuinely terrifying Joker-mite to keep Bat-Mite occupied. after dressing Mite as his court jester (another nice nod)

I won't dwell on the rest of the episode, enjoy it for yourselves when you get the chance, I WILL note that according to the end credits the Joker was supposed to have a song in this episode called "Where's the Fun in That?" Which from the point in the episode when he says the line would presumably have been about how much he enjoys devising and constructing complex, overblown deathtraps.

For legality a couple of covers that featured in the episode

And then there's the Doom Patrol episode, which I will say nothing about as it should be appreciated for what it is, a remarkable and  powerful story about the choices that make one a hero, that is respectful to the source material in the way that Brave and the Bold always somehow manages.

I will showsyou a background from the episode though, just to show how complete the geekitudity of these people is...

Can you spot all the Doom Patrol references here? I won't mention the obvious ones, but it does include;

Shasta the Living Mountain from Morrisons deranged one shot parody of the Doom Patrol and Liefeld style storytelling;  "Doom Force"
Romulus and Remus (Siamese twins, conceptual aerialists who perform their death defying acts whilst seated on the ground) and Baboushka the living Russian Doll are acts in the circus of the Geomancers in Morrisons Doom Patrol 37.

Oh, and this cover IS included in the episode...

Date: 2010-10-09 10:39 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Then we get to the episode. There's even a sort of pre-story sequence, with Batman fighting that most terrible of bad guys... The.. ummm... Ten-Eyed Man!-

Radon is practically invincible, as the optic nerves on his fingers allow him to see in all directions!

Date: 2010-10-10 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
The way I always figured it, the idea is that, since he has optic nerves on his fingers, he can get ultra-close up views of the inner mechanisms of locks, which makes picking them a breeze. Give him a toothpick and uncovered hands, and the guy could probably open any locked door around. (Of course, that leaves all the OTHER problems inherent in breaking out of jail, like, say, guards, but presumably he'd get someone else to help out with that.)

Date: 2010-10-10 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Only in two or three fingers. He's still got seven more.

Date: 2010-10-10 07:22 am (UTC)
gamerguy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gamerguy
I'm pretty sure Batman defeated him one time by tossing a vase at him. He caught it, thus temporarily blinding himself....

Date: 2010-10-09 10:59 am (UTC)
drakyndra: The Music Meister demands you sing! (GRATUITOUS MUSICAL NUMBER TIME)
From: [personal profile] drakyndra
Okay, I'm going to watch that episode as soon as we get the version with the song.

I love your songs, B:TBATB.

Date: 2010-10-09 11:17 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
I will say this, I found Elastigirl's fat disguise pretty cute.

Nachos? Yes my love, I'll get them. AWAY!

Also, batman punched a SHARK ARM.

Date: 2010-10-09 01:18 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Heh, I once had an rpg character like that; Rokorokubi, she was the legacy of a Golden age Japanese "Villain" (actually forced against her will to fight for the Axis) with elastic powers, she started as a teen hero, then took time off for College and got really fat when she started entering eating contests (since she's elastic her stomach has an infinite capacity, plus no health risks for being fat with a rubbery body). However, since she is elastic she can compress her body to be super thin and hot at will. Its really the ultimate secret identity.

Date: 2010-10-09 11:34 am (UTC)
retro_nouveau: AARP Bruce (30)
From: [personal profile] retro_nouveau
Wow, that's going way, way back and pushing the limits of the esoteric. Most of it's a golden age learning experience for me. Where's Zebra Batman? :D

BTAS Stooges will always be my first choice for Joker henchmen. I always thought the Marx Brothers would be the next choice, at least before Harold Lloyd anyway. I hope Stan is around there somewhere.

Yay, Harley! But Harley without her red and black is just wrong. Bat-Mite in the red and black is x 10.

One day the BATB complete box set will be released, and I will be there on that day.

Date: 2010-10-09 02:16 pm (UTC)
thokstar: Spot (Default)
From: [personal profile] thokstar
During the costume montage induced by Batmite in that episode, we get Zebra Batman for a few seconds, with the line "Too confusing".

Date: 2010-10-09 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com
One thing with the Marxes if that if one of the boys is anything like Groucho he falls into the dangerous trap of possibly out-joking the Joker (which usually gets you let go from the job very painfully).

Also, I don't think Stan Laurel's in there, for reasons mentioned below.

Date: 2010-10-09 11:32 pm (UTC)
retro_nouveau: AARP Bruce (35)
From: [personal profile] retro_nouveau
I think Groucho would be fine as another goon in costume, following the rules: (1) Laugh at the right time, (2) stop laughing at the right time, (3) do exactly what the J-Man says, and (4) keep the trap shut. Anyone hanging out with him must be getting the cash up front, and it helps to have nothing to lose.

Now I'm really disappointed. I guess Chaplin and three very obscure other people from the silent era are ok, but I'd love to see a mega-gang with all the greats: 3 Marxes, 3 (Can I have 4? I love Shemp too!) Stooges, Abbott & Costello, and Laurel & Hardy. Even if they're just there to look tough and dogpile on the rabbit. :D

Date: 2010-10-10 03:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darklorelei
Buster Keaton? Obsure? Lol.

Date: 2010-10-10 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Err, as darklorelei has already pointed out, they aren't really all that obscure. Buster Keaton, Fatty Arbuckle and Harold Lloyd were three of the GIANTS of silent comedy - they were big, big stars in their day, and they're still pretty well known today.

Date: 2010-10-10 03:39 pm (UTC)
retro_nouveau: AARP Bruce (106)
From: [personal profile] retro_nouveau
Well, here's another fine mess.

I'll defer to the group, especially since Harold Lloyd appears in more Google results than Groucho Marx. I still say that mistaking the oversized guy in the bowler hat for Ollie was completely understandable.

three stooges About 3,310,000 results
laurel hardy About 2,750,000 results
abbott costello About 1,400,000 results
harold lloyd About 1,100,000 results
groucho marx About 1,000,000 results
buster keaton About 922,000 results
marx brothers About 755,000 results
fatty arbuckle About 117,000 results

(Oops! Sorry about that.)

Date: 2010-10-09 12:19 pm (UTC)
aelflar: (Bats `n` Rob)
From: [personal profile] aelflar
Oh MY! This show may be going, but it`s going out with a bang! A glorious hymn-worthy bang! Gosh, that Jason Todd tribute made me all warm and fuzzy. ILU creative team, ILU <3

Great post!

Date: 2010-10-09 02:15 pm (UTC)
thokstar: Spot (Default)
From: [personal profile] thokstar
I thought the geekiest Doom Patrol reference was when they talk about the event in Paris, and during that scene you can briefly see the villains gathered around a painting under the Eiffel Tower.

Date: 2010-10-09 02:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] benicio127

Date: 2010-10-09 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com
Looking at the Joker's henchmen again, I don't think the fat guy is Oliver Hardy.

I think he's Fatty Arbuckle. For some, that might border on a funny aneurysm moment given Arbuckle's infamous history (well, infamous if you read up on silent film stars).

Date: 2010-10-09 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com
Yes, later investigations have suggested it was a big mistake and a horrible disservice to Mr. Arbuckle. But scandal has a way of sticking around.

And the mistaken belief that Cass Eliot died by choking makes a certain Scooby-Doo ep seem like a funny aneurysm moment too (if you're not already thinking it's a cheap shot at fat people).

Date: 2010-10-09 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elsewhere7.livejournal.com
I caught that too when I saw the episode. I've usually hated Scooby Doo in every incarnation except for this one. It's actually interesting!

Date: 2010-10-10 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com
I haven't seen Mystery Incorporated yet (though I've heard it has all sorts of shout outs, including one to 13 Ghosts-- I wonder who did Vincent van Ghoul's voice?).

There's going to be a crossover between Mystery Incorporated and Batman: Brave and the Bold in an upcoming BatB ep, if I understand correctly ("Bat-Mite Presents: Batman's Strangest Cases!", which is supposedly also going to reference a vintage MAD comics story and the 1960s Batman manga[!!]).

Date: 2010-10-10 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com
Oh, forgot to add about the Cass Elliot Scooby-Doo episode. It's called "The Haunted Candy Factory". It's been a LONG time since I've seen it (it may be on YouTube if it hasn't gotten yanked) but IIRC at one point there's a moment where Cass is trapped in a room that is filling up with candy (from a machine running amok) and EATS HER WAY OUT 'cause y'know, fat people can eat like nobody's business, right? Like I said, a cheap shot at best and if a person mistakenly believes the story about her choking to death...!

Date: 2010-10-09 08:06 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Batmite is sheer 4thWall/Meta goodness.... but I don't want to reach Deadpool over use.

Date: 2010-10-09 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elsewhere7.livejournal.com
In the Doom Patrol episode, I saw the Midway boards with other DP people, and kinda fervently hoped they'd use one of them, just to be different.

Date: 2010-10-09 10:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jarodrussell
Then we get to the episode. There's even a sort of pre-story sequence, with Batman fighting that most terrible of bad guys... The.. ummm... Ten-Eyed Man!

Seeing as how he still has ten fingers, this obviously took place before Batman RIP.

So when do Professor Pyg and El Flamingo show up? :-D

Date: 2010-10-09 11:56 pm (UTC)
jarodrussell: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jarodrussell
*reads your entire post*

I have to say, I'm loving the number of deathtrap songs this series has produced.

Date: 2010-10-10 02:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
Batmite! I need to watch that episode like today. :)

Date: 2010-10-10 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
One of these days, I will catch up on this series. The more I read about it, the more I want to watch it, but, like the Mask said, "Can't make the scene if you ain't got the green." Oh well - someday.
It's possible that BTBAB Harley's shtick is styling herself after whatever the Joker's current theme is. It's silent films here, so she dresses up like a flapper in black and white - next time, he might do, say, a fish-themed caper, a'la 'Laughing Fish', and she might be dressed as a mermaid, or he could do something in space and she's be dressed in a spacesuit, and so on.

Date: 2010-10-10 12:30 pm (UTC)
amaniwolf: (Galactus)
From: [personal profile] amaniwolf
The Doom Patrol episode was great and if you look at the Circus Posters on the far right, you can see the one of Beast Boy! Our favorite Green, Animal Shapeshifter! You get a clear view of it in the episode.

Date: 2010-10-10 02:06 pm (UTC)
star_of_airdrie: (warriorprincess)
From: [personal profile] star_of_airdrie
The Last Patrol episode was great in so many ways plus having a very Silkie-looking Killer Moth worm (okay, an exact duplicate of Silkie).

Does that make Silkie canon now? We hope so!


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