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AKA the final issue of this mini-series and the issue where I was like omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg

[personal profile] cuntfucius, [personal profile] levy and [personal profile] whitesycamore will be giddy about this.

Four pages.

Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.

Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.

In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.

The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.

As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.

Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.

Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.

I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.

Date: 2010-11-08 11:27 am (UTC)
levyrasputin: (gar-pleeease)
From: [personal profile] levyrasputin
Lol, yeah, you should honey..! XD

anyway, I'm bad at calculations and DC is not really helping with their sloppy and conveniente sense of time, but since you seem to be much more able than me, at least when it comes to Jason's canon...

Bruce took him in at twelve? .. and he trained him untill fourteen, when he got killed? ...and adopted him posthoumsly, isn't it?

Fucking big deal on the "zomg it's like family Talia raised him as a _child_ and then slept with THE SON of the man she loved!!!"

Okay, I get it, some people find it squicky and I respect that as a subjective reaction, but let's try not to push this whole situation to and extreme that really isn't there.

Date: 2010-11-08 01:23 pm (UTC)
levyrasputin: (Default)
From: [personal profile] levyrasputin
Mh kay.... but IIRC Tim was actually the first one he legally adopted. Or at least I'm sure he did adopted him before he adopted Dick legally - it happens in Gotham Knights... uhm.. 17 if I'm not mistaken.

Aaahah true.
And I actually have to point out some hypocrisy in me about this, as I don't think Bruce is that good for Selina after all of this on and off... =PP

Date: 2010-11-08 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Jason was the first kid Bruce adopted actually! Because in the (Titans, I think?) issue where Dick finds out about Jason's death, Bruce accuses him of being jealous that he adopted Jason but not Dick.

Date: 2010-11-08 01:31 pm (UTC)
levyrasputin: (gen-butterflyonthewall)
From: [personal profile] levyrasputin
Really? oh I missed that! ...and than Dick was all 'umh :| ' when he adopted Tim too.. Jeez, man up a little Grayson! =P

okay, I take back the assumption Jason was not his son legally. Doesn't change much about the lack of blood connection and the fact that Bruce took him in as a young teen, not as a baby.

Date: 2010-11-08 03:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
No, he adopted Jason as soon as he took him in--Jason was first adopted. Then Dick (as an adult) and then Tim after Dick.

Date: 2010-11-08 03:24 pm (UTC)
sistermagpie: Classic magpie (Default)
From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
And five people had already answered this--sorry about that! Should have read before responding.

Date: 2010-11-08 03:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
Wait, but does anybody here actually think Talia ought to be saving herself from Bruce? I know people have mentioned some people on other boards discussing whether it makes them "uncomfortable" or something to have Selina or Talia sleep with other people, but I don't remember anybody here actually thinking Talia owes Bruce fidelity. I remember someone saying that in the past Talia seemed to them to be only linked with Bruce, but I didn't take that to mean they thought she had to be.


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