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Welcome to Day 20 of our 30 day Winter event. Today's theme is Didactic and 'message' comics!

Check out the full list here! And stay tuned tomorrow for Not-Quite Comics!

I picked this up at Fan Expo this year and yes, I totally cried while reading it. It's written and drawn by Judd Winick and details his time on MTV's the Real World, his friendship with Pedro Zamora and is a biography of Pedro's short life. This work also applies to non-fiction, though it is fact-based and brings home several messages, some of which are more urgent than others.
Initially, Winick was asked by MTV producers if he would mind sharing a room with an HIV positive person. He agreed, though reflecting on it later as he writes this, he admits his privilege and that he was both worried about it and had a world of stereotypes going into the situation. Wish he could drop those stereotypes while writing Tora ahem

11 pages here.

Pam and Judd go to one of Pedro's many lectures for AIDS activism during the six months of filming for the Real World.

Date: 2010-12-20 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
Honestly, this just cements what an absolutely awful human being Puck was and continues to be.

Date: 2010-12-20 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Well, a regular sized condom can fit over a very large penis, but it can't always do so comfortably. When men complain that it's too tight they usually just mean "too tight for me to maintain an erection" - not too tight for them to get on at all. It's not very helpful to just ignore that problem as though it were a purely spurious complaint.

The female condom is quite a good solution (for straight couples) that rarely gets mentioned. It actually provides better protection against STI's than the male condom too. I guess it's the aesthetics most people just can't get past?

Date: 2010-12-20 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
I guess it's a personal thing - TMI, but I actually think the female condom can improve sex, depending on the dimensions of the partner.

And condoms come in different sizes!

But he doesn't mention that either - he just stretches one out to insane sizes, which I wouldn't have thought would be a great method for getting one over a dick (I've never actually attempted to stretch a condom, do they stay stretched out afterwards, or is there some memory there? I, er, don't know why I assume you'd know this).

Date: 2010-12-20 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Ok, I just stretched one over my hand and it keeps it's dimensions well, but it *does* squeeze like a bitch, which is the real issue when guys complain about the tightness. It probably would have been more helpful if Pedro had mentioned Magnums....

Date: 2010-12-20 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
Also, wearing wrongsized condoms can be unsafe both for it's protection value, and..the wedding tackle.

So really, don't go to big, don't go to small, no mocking about the condom size ladies. Not everyone can wear a magnum safely, and one size doesn't fit all. Not that i'm saying a man's peenzor should ever, ever come into contact WITHOUT a condom. around, I guess.

Date: 2010-12-21 07:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] badficwriter
There's a surprising lack of info on condom size on many popular brands. When they do have milimeter size, they all seem the same. :(

Date: 2010-12-22 01:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
Honest question: I remember the old ad campaign for Reality brand female condoms from when I was in college, so that'd be around 1996. Winick was on the 1994 season of "The Real World," so he's watching Pedro's speech in 1993 or 1994. When did the first real marketing blitz for the female condom really kick in? I don't remember ever hearing about so much as their existence until Reality made the scene.

Date: 2010-12-21 01:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bluefall
You know, I really don't like Winick's writing. He's got little respect for established canon or characterization, he's been glaringly sexist, painfully racist, and his queer-positive stories have a squirmy awkwardness to them (from Grace talking about her orientation to that simplistic and nihilistic Green Lantern story). Even here, he spends so much of his time talking about himself, and his reactions, and his thoughts, and ooh he was a bad liberal, that my first instinct is dude, are you fishing for cookies here? Just shut up, we get it, stop making this All About You.

But I am still so fucking glad he writes comics. I am so fucking thankful for his transparent, blatant "liberal agenda" and the fact that he deliberately goes out of his way to add queer characters to the superhero landscape, to give HIV a face people can grok, and to tell stories like this one. Because it needs to be done, and at least as long as he's still around, I can be sure someone's doing it.

Date: 2010-12-21 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
"and his queer-positive stories have a squirmy awkwardness to them (from Grace talking about her orientation to that simplistic and nihilistic Green Lantern story)."

You know what? I know exactly what you mean. Both in this specific quote and your entire comment. But in spite of all that he's written characters that I love in ways that I love, and when he gets emotion right, he really gets it right. I can't help feeling that he has so much potential buried under his progressive-dude posturing, and his generally appalling, ungrammatical prose.

I just really wish he'd take a writing course or get a proof-reader who won't sugar-coat.

Date: 2010-12-21 03:09 am (UTC)
bluefall: Barbara Minerva in a Santa hat (festive Minerva)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
Anissa, too. I mean, there's that lack of respect for canon, again, since it screws with Jeff's timeline something fierce, but that's two queer characters of color in one title.

Man, every time I come to this comm there's some new reason why I really need to get around to reading Under the Hood.

Date: 2010-12-21 09:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bluefall
Look I only joined Tumblr like twelve hours ago, surely there's a grace period for catching up? ;-;

Date: 2010-12-21 05:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meatwhichdreams
I totally agree. I actually had no idea Judd Winick got his start on The Real World, and in a weird way that fact really explains everything. He pursues his liberal beliefs with a relentless, over-the-top, bombastic, crude, and self-obsessed-yet-un-self-aware energy - in other words, he writes like a reality television contestant! And the bottom line is that if he hadn't, none of these topics might have ever been raised by less brave, more thoughtful writers, because they would have realized that their livelihood was on the line. Strange old world, huh?

Date: 2010-12-22 01:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
Pretty much this. Winick's volunteered to be the alpha awkward well-meaning white dude, who often looks like an asshole but who makes certain necessary steps forward. Somebody has to do it; might as well be him.

I always thought it was funny that almost everything Winick's written outside of the Batbooks has a female Asian character who's blatantly introduced as a role-model and who receives better characterization than almost everyone else, going back to Sara Tan in the "Barry Ween" strip. He's totally writing characters for his wife and it always makes me smile.

Date: 2010-12-21 02:56 am (UTC)
bluefall: (SODOMITES!)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
Also, on a totally unrelated note, am I the only one who finds the phrase "mutual masturbation" utterly wrongheaded? You cannot masturbate someone else. It is not masturbation if there is another person involved, self-stimulation is what masturbation is! "Mutual masturbation" should refer to reciprocal voyeurism, a couple getting themselves off while watching each other do so. (And c'mon, that's pretty hot and a great form of safe sex that should totally be talked up.) Why that term has come to mean something that's far better described as "mutual hand-jobs" is beyond me.

C'mon, clarity of language is important. ;_;

Date: 2010-12-21 06:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meatwhichdreams
Totally! It's not only linguistically incorrect, it plays into the idiotic sexual hierarchies that make AIDS so dangerous. Because pleasuring your partner sexually and being pleasured in return DOESN'T COUNT because you didn't stick it in. What? You're both happy and enjoying yourselves? Lame! D: GET IT IN THERE OR YOU'RE NOT HAVING A GOOD TIME LOSER

Also lesbians never have sex, because they are silly ladies who can only masturbate, but at least that's sexy, amiright 8D

People really need to friggin' talk more about sex because when we don't we end up in these ridiculous situations where everyone is ignorant and terrified they suck and nobody has a good time. ;_;

Date: 2010-12-22 04:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darrylayo
While I'm sure that some people believe that certain forms of sex "don't count" unless they meet whatever personal criteria, I would say there's a distinct psychological hierarchy between enjoying pleasure in close proximity of another and enjoying similar pleasure while literally inside one another. I don't think that's society, I think that's the innate preference of most people.

I don't mean to discard your point, but in the overwhelming majority of cases, people who intend to have sex with one another tend to greatly prefer close contact and physical coupling. I don't think it can be classified as "idiotic," it's the most common sexual impulse.

I would counter-argue that the most effective way to encourage people to be safe is not to discourage the kinds of sex that are most common, but to reinforce the need for safety and conscientiousness within all contexts--especially the common contexts.

If a couple decides that they are inclined toward sex that doesn't exchange fluids, more power to them, they're ahead of the game. But it's really dangerous to try to push forth an idea of "preferable" sex on persons who are unlikely to accept it as suitable for their relationships on the grounds that it's safer. The safest is to make their default choices less risky.

Date: 2010-12-22 05:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meatwhichdreams
But it's really dangerous to try to push forth an idea of "preferable" sex on persons who are unlikely to accept it as suitable for their relationships on the grounds that it's safer. The safest is to make their default choices less risky.

I totally agree with you here. In fact, that was the point I was try to make from the other direction: that our prevalent social message that enjoying sex in any (safe, protected way) is secondary to succeeding at sex (sticking it in, bro!). I'm not denying anyone's enjoyment of penetrative, fluid-swapping sex over digitally penetrative/non-penetrative sex, oral sex, etc. etc...I'm just saying that it's confusing and incorrect to call that type of sex "masturbation" because it can often be quite as intimate as straight up "p inna v (or a)." People's preferences aren't idiotic at all. They're just preferences. What I find idiotic is the way people talk about sex like there's only one best way to do it, and all the other ways are less awesome - the denial that non-vagical penetration can be just as intimate, mutual pleasurable, and rewarding. Because that assumption means people are less likely to ask their partners about what they like and explore what works for each individual person...and they're more likely to push their partner to swap fluids when it's not safe because they don't understand the alternatives can also be rewarding.

I'm not trying to push any time of sex as preferable on anyone, because everyone's experiences are unique. I would never discourage people from having the sex they enjoy as long as it's safe! The only "preferable" type of sex I'm trying to push here is just "sex that is safe and both partners enjoy."


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