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So last issue had the Sinister Six break out of prison. As The Ultimates and Ultimate Avengers were having a battle, Norman Osborn saw this a great opportunity to deal with Spidey once and for all.

Norman doesn't see it this way, especially taking offense at the "we" part. He transforms into the Green Goblin and throws poor Otto out the window. Otto of course has Magneto-powers now and is able to make himself new tentacles to save him.

Of course, Norman proves to be the more powerful out of the two.

Alas poor Otto, we knew him well.

Date: 2011-05-14 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I'd agree, but to me, it actually did what the Ultimate Universe was partially meant to do - Create something different. The characters might be recognisable, but you could change them and make them tick differently, and that was what I found exciting. Bendis did the best job of this with characters like Gwen and Dazzler.

So I never really took issue with making Otto a low-rent Magneto. For starters, we never really knew that he was 'low-rent' - The guy could repeatedly summon his original tentacles from miles away, after all. I got the feeling he was a lot more powerful than was let on, but he just had a predilection for using the 'robotic' arms, really.

Date: 2011-05-14 09:42 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
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Maybe he was just unoriginal and could only think of arms. Which would be ironic, given the brilliant mind he was supposed to have.

But yeah, I do agree with you on some aspects. I loved the new version of Venom, along with tying Brock in closer with Pete. Pretty much everything there was perfect, even what the symbiote was, instead. And they incorporated Eddie's Pete-related background into Spectacular Spider-Man.

Totally agree on Gwen, though. I liked how he switched character traits between her and MJ. It oddly worked well.

I guess what I didn't like about creating something different is a lot of it just didn't work for me. The Goblins as Hulks was vastly inferior to all the fun gadgets and stuff the original Goblin used.

Again, I don't entirely hate the Ult. Universe. There were some things I liked, like Millar's Ultimates, especially his takes on Cap, Thor and Iron Man. But sometimes, there's a reason that the stuff we've seen for 50 years has been around for 50 years, you know?

Date: 2011-05-15 12:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I think the Goblins were perhaps a little poor, and poorly explained, really. I understood the nature of Oz being Norman's own little pitch for the renewed Super Soldier formula, but I never got how his treatment made him a gigantic monster and Peter's kept him a human spider just because it had been run through a spider. *shrugs*

But the Goblins were a bit rubbish. I liked the notion of them being tangentially related to the Ultimate Hulk by virtue of them being competing projects, but the Goblin should have gadgets, you're right. I think something like the movie version, only without that incredibly ugly armour, could've worked better.

Date: 2011-05-17 04:14 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Maybe he was just unoriginal and could only think of arms. Which would be ironic, given the brilliant mind he was supposed to have.

Perhaps, but on the other hand, he knew the arms, they were like extensions of him, weren't they?

If you were to imagine a new appendage for yourself, say another arm or two-- what would be more intuitive, arms like the ones you know and have now, or maybe some arms with three or four segments between the body and hands?

--LBD "Nytetrayn"


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