Date: 2011-11-12 10:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
A magic leech as a threat is an interesting notion, but seriously "The Siphon" was the best name for it? And I thought the Charmed's "The Hollow" was the least exciting supernatural entity name (But more because when I hear reference to "a hollow" I first think of a wooded area, like a copse, which is hardly scary... though Ichabod Crane might disagree I know)

And since I have no idea who Severin is, the reveal isn't particularly shocking, though I'd have thought given Buffy's track record, more or less inevitable.

Date: 2011-11-12 01:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
And since I have no idea who Severin is, the reveal isn't particularly shocking, though I'd have thought given Buffy's track record, more or less inevitable.

"Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"

Date: 2011-11-12 10:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
two things, one, i like that Buffy is acknowledging, "Yes, destroying source of all earth's magic has probably left some consequences we will need to deal with"

second, maybe this Siphon guy, who has been siphoning off magicks apparently, maybe he is the key to recreating the seed.

Date: 2011-11-13 07:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
You could say that the name Siphon...sucks? =D

Date: 2011-11-15 11:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] baihu
I think I read an Angel comic with a bad guy called the Hollower. All Lovecraftian fangy, tentacly. Also it could talk but not that often.

I actually quite liked that guy, he ate vampire too but would incubate with all the dark souls and then just like, explode and let them out to infect still living people to become vamp-puppets to make more vamps for him to eat.

http://images.wikia.com/buffy/images/4/42/Hollower_2.jpg

Date: 2011-11-12 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneil.livejournal.com
First, why would being a zombie make someone faster and stronger than being possessed by a demon?

Second, if being possessed by a demon is what makes vampires evil by nature, why would not being possessed by a demon make a vampire meaner?

The only thing that makes any sense is that they drool a lot.

But when Angel and Spike became not possessed by demons, they didn't become mean super-zombie vampires. They just became non-demon vampires, so I guess none of it makes sense.

Date: 2011-11-12 02:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
First, why would being a zombie make someone faster and stronger than being possessed by a demon?

No concerns about personal well being, fatigue poisons, or the like...

Second, if being possessed by a demon is what makes vampires evil by nature, why would not being possessed by a demon make a vampire meaner?

Humans are basically a nastier bunch than demons at heart? (Many media have commented on this)

But when Angel and Spike became not possessed by demons, they didn't become mean super-zombie vampires. They just became non-demon vampires, so I guess none of it makes sense.

They were still possessed by demons or they wouldn't have any powers, tthey got their souls back.

Date: 2011-11-12 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneil.livejournal.com
But when Angel and Spike became not possessed by demons, they didn't become mean super-zombie vampires. They just became non-demon vampires, so I guess none of it makes sense.

They were still possessed by demons or they wouldn't have any powers, tthey got their souls back.


Then why do the zombie vampires have powers? Shouldn't they either be zombies or just dead vampires? Or just dead?

Date: 2011-11-12 03:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Zombies are dead before the demon enters them, vampires normally pro-create by doing the killing directly, diluting, perhaps, the demonic-ness that enters the human host-body. (We know that vampires are looked upon as weak excuses of monsterdum in the Buffyverse), perhaps the direct-occupying process is ultimately more effective, if not more efficient.

Date: 2011-11-12 09:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kenwyn89
comic book science/magic. Just go with it.

Date: 2011-11-12 02:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Angel and Spike gained souls, not just lost the demonness.

The demon-essence still has self-preservation and that sort of thing. I'm guessing that the reason they're so bad is because they have neither human soul nor vamp essence, so while Soul > Vamp essence, a being that's been imprinted by vamp essence but then lost it while gaining nothing is more mindlessly destructive still.

Date: 2011-11-12 02:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arbre_rieur
"First, why would being a zombie make someone faster and stronger than being possessed by a demon?"

Because they're feral. Mindless, empty killing machines.

"Second, if being possessed by a demon is what makes vampires evil by nature, why would not being possessed by a demon make a vampire meaner?"

Not necessarily meaner, but feral. Vampires can still choose to act civilized and show restraint. When there's nothing there but a void, not so much.

Date: 2011-11-15 09:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eyz
And why can't Whedon and co produce a Firefly Season 2 this way?? I love the occasional comic/one shot or two, but an on-going would be so much better!

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