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Anyone know why the hell this book is part of DC's "Edge" line? It's probably the least edgy book they're putting out outside the Johnny DC line (not that that's a bad thing).

Date: 2011-12-03 01:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrosa
Why would anyone want to copy Kirby's style? I just keep thinking that Kirby, being a person who liked to come up with new ideas all the time, would rather people developed their own style instead of aping his.

Date: 2011-12-03 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
because people don't want to to what he would want they want to do what he did

Date: 2011-12-03 02:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrosa
Then they'll only succeed in being second-rate Kirbies, which sadly seems to be the zenith of most people's ambitions working in comics.

Date: 2011-12-03 03:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrosa
Yes, I agree that Kirby was very distinctive. But I think artists should strive to find their own style. And in Giffen's case, I know he can draw without aping Kirby. It's the nostalgia that upsets me the most. It's like I wrote before, knowing what little I know of Kirby, I think he'd rather people drew the way they want instead of being beholden to him.

Date: 2011-12-03 04:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrosa
I believe there's a difference. For one thing, Rick Veitch wasn't just aping Kirby, but EC, MAD and other styles. For me, that was part of the big metatextual commentary Moore was making about the medium, painstakingly duplicating the visual and literal style of old comics and then contrast them to their modern counterparts. I don't think we'd have the same story without tose pastiches because they were story. There was an intellectual reason for them.

But in OMAC there's no reason for it, not to me anyway. For me nothing's gained by it. It make as much sense as drawing Thor, the X-Men or the Avengers in Kirby's style.

Date: 2011-12-08 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] the_eleven
But in OMAC there's no reason for it

OMAC is a Kirby book in the first place? That seems like the whole point of this exercise, two old Kirby fans having fun with a piece of the legacy.

Date: 2011-12-03 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Giffen's art doesn't look like Kirby's, particularly. 'Bulky characters' is a trademark of Kirby's style, but he's far from the only one to use them.

There's Kirby influence, obviously, and they're certainly playing it up, given that this is a Kirby-created property that uses a lot of Kirby-style concepts, but Giffen's art is clearly Giffen's - nobody does faces like he does, for one thing.


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