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I don't know if anyone's posted or seen this already, but there are quite a few spoilers here for the upcoming issues of Avengers: the Children's Crusade.

I'm keeping out a few tags on purpose for those who wish for no spoilers.

Date: 2011-12-07 09:28 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Sure, why not? Not like it damages the dramatic impact of past deaths.


Date: 2011-12-07 06:40 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
Fuck the dramatic impact of past deaths, they are always a cheap lazy hackwork device that should be reversed as soon as possible.

Date: 2011-12-07 06:41 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
Well okay... except for Hal.

Date: 2011-12-07 07:41 pm (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
I'm not disagreeing with you, it's a recursive problem of lazy writing and this is the other side of the coin. Death/Resurrection is played out in comics, period.

Date: 2011-12-07 09:30 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Yet again, Doom proves that he's the greatest hero in the Marvel Universe!

Or, you know, he's done it for the same reason he agreed to help out Susan when she was giving birth to Valeria and Reed was busy doing something else. Namely to annoy Reed that he was able to do something good that Reed couldn't.

Date: 2011-12-07 09:44 am (UTC)
flidgetjerome: Hark, a Vagrant #328 (Default)
From: [personal profile] flidgetjerome
No reason he can't multi-task.

Date: 2011-12-07 10:07 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Damn' you, DOOOOOM!! *somewhere, Reed is shaking his fist, annoyed, as usual*

Date: 2011-12-07 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
The problem or Doom is that all his trolling attempts won't work because Reed doesen't really care. He's just pleased that Doom is doing something useful rather than launching his house into space.

Date: 2011-12-07 01:15 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Poor Doom...he only wanted Reed's attention, once in a while...

At the heart of each great arch-enemy, a broken heart :P

this sounds and looks too much like Blackest Night's conclusion all over again!

Date: 2011-12-07 01:54 pm (UTC)
nyadnar17: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Yeah Doom should start trolling Tony Stark instead. Tony would be much more "appreciative".

Date: 2011-12-14 04:32 am (UTC)
mistervader: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mistervader
Speaking of which, would you happen to have the scans to when Victor made the bargain that he will get to name Valeria for Reed and Sue? I know he offered a name he *won't* give the girl, and I chuckled at the name.

But now, I forgot what name he offered up.

Date: 2011-12-31 12:26 am (UTC)
da_reap: (Default)
From: [personal profile] da_reap
I love the rejected options better, like what one person put up: 'Isa.'

Teutonic girl's name that means 'iron', very nice...

And when Reed sees her birth certificate, he notices it says 'Richards, Isa Failure.'

Date: 2011-12-07 03:20 pm (UTC)
brooms: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brooms
I was about to post it, you beat me to it!

He's looking mighty foine, isn't he :3

And this is why I can't wait 3 months for Cheung's art.

Date: 2011-12-07 03:24 pm (UTC)
brooms: (reading)
From: [personal profile] brooms
Also linking to this Heinberg interview, because he confirms Children's Crusade will pave the way for Avengers vs X-Men -

This is the part that bothers me...

Date: 2011-12-07 03:41 pm (UTC)
bewareofgeek: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bewareofgeek
"Allan Heinberg: It's revived and transformed him, burning away his ego and his insecurity, leaving only what is true and noble about Victor Von Doom."

Doom without his ego isn't Doom. :)

And yeah, I doubt this will stick.

Re: This is the part that bothers me...

Date: 2011-12-07 03:48 pm (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
If the supposedly ego-less Doom immediately starts correcting his own past mistakes, it might be real. If he immediately starts correcting his enemies' past mistakes, it's 100% BS -- and quintessential Doom.

Re: This is the part that bothers me...

Date: 2011-12-07 04:56 pm (UTC)
bewareofgeek: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bewareofgeek
Oh, I think it's real. I just expect it to last about 2 months before someone decides they need him as a villain again, and has him consciously decide to go back to the way he was or something. Bonus points if:

1) This turns out to be a Doombot, or
2) He purposefully scars himself.

Re: This is the part that bothers me...

Date: 2011-12-07 09:53 pm (UTC)
schala_kid: Stephanie Brown as Batgirl (Default)
From: [personal profile] schala_kid
They already did this in Secret Wars, kind of, Doom was omnipotent and the best at everything that there was no need for him to have an ego or do what he did.

Date: 2011-12-07 09:00 pm (UTC)
practicalcat: Sensor from Reboot-era Legion of Super-Heroes wearing a hat and carrying a fan (Sensor is stylish!)
From: [personal profile] practicalcat
Wait, did they bring Original Flavor Vision back too? OMG YAY TWO VISIONS! Jonas needs a non-evil member of his family to chill with!

Date: 2011-12-07 10:35 pm (UTC)
practicalcat: Sensor from Reboot-era Legion of Super-Heroes wearing a hat and carrying a fan (Sensor is stylish!)
From: [personal profile] practicalcat

See Tony, this is a MUCH better idea than cloning Thor. Which Avengers title?

Date: 2011-12-08 07:34 am (UTC)
practicalcat: Asgardian and Hulkling agreeing that what they're observing is not how super heroes are supposed to behave (/not/ super hero behavior)
From: [personal profile] practicalcat
Thanks for the pics!

Please tell me that the last panel is Vision spotting Billy and/or Tommy and/or Jonas. Please?

Date: 2011-12-07 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
The main one.

Date: 2011-12-08 06:44 am (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
Which confuses me greatly actually. Wasn't Vision all but obliterated and then what was left of him without memory got turned into Jonas?

Date: 2011-12-07 03:33 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
I don't think there's any way those resurrections stick, or Doom stays in his megapowered good-guy form for long.

Especially since it's pretty obvious Iron Lad is a Secret Bad Guy.

Date: 2011-12-07 03:42 pm (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
How can it be a secret when he introduces himself as Kang?

Date: 2011-12-07 05:59 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Because teenagers are stupid!

Date: 2011-12-07 06:54 pm (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
Nah, they're not stupid. Just inexperienced and periodically insane....

Date: 2011-12-07 04:00 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Oooohkay, took it too far. There's no way this is sticking now.

Date: 2011-12-07 04:00 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Goddamn if the man doesn't draw a pretty Jean, though.

Date: 2011-12-07 06:14 pm (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Pretty everyone, really. It's why when I picture the Marvel U now, I do it through this or McNiven's work.

Date: 2011-12-07 04:52 pm (UTC)
nomadicwriter: Doctor Doom and Wanda Maximoff (Doom/Wanda)
From: [personal profile] nomadicwriter
I'm not sure the resurrections there are actually 'real' as such; looking at the sequence of panels, it seems like what we're seeing could just be Doom doing a bit of a power demo:

Panel 1. Doom: "Look, see, I could be a benevolent god and do all this good stuff for you."
Panel 2. *Doom waves a hand and makes the good stuff disappear*
Panel 3. Doom: "Or, if you don't play nice, I could be the evil glowy eyed destructive kind of god instead."
Panel 4. Everybody else: "...Soooo, who decided it was a good idea to let Doom have the keys to the 'godlike power' cabinet again?"

Date: 2011-12-07 05:35 pm (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
Motto, although I think he'll try to be a bit more subtle than that.

Doom Omnipotent.....

Date: 2011-12-07 06:25 pm (UTC)
capt_satellite: (Default)
From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
....because it worked so well in Secret Wars >:(

Re: Doom Omnipotent.....

Date: 2011-12-07 09:55 pm (UTC)
schala_kid: Stephanie Brown as Batgirl (Default)
From: [personal profile] schala_kid

Date: 2011-12-07 06:45 pm (UTC)
filthysize: (Default)
From: [personal profile] filthysize
I still don't know where this is in relation to FF.

Date: 2011-12-07 07:04 pm (UTC)
maxisanacorn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] maxisanacorn
What's Hope's purpose now that Jean Grey is back...again....I always thought she was like...Jean incarnate...thing...

Date: 2011-12-08 06:42 am (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
Eh, depends on if Jean's pseudo resurrection lasts, which seems unlikely. And no one's still really sure what the heck Hope is in relation to Jean if anything. She might just be a redheaded herring.

Date: 2011-12-07 08:01 pm (UTC)
thefiretonight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thefiretonight
I thought Mar-Vell was already brought back?

Date: 2011-12-07 08:02 pm (UTC)
thefiretonight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thefiretonight
Also I would approve of his coming back if his other kids get to, too. :-p Does Teddy even know of his siblings?

Date: 2011-12-07 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I think everyone who was brought back during Chaos War died again (except for Alpha Flight for some inexplicable reason)

Date: 2011-12-08 02:28 am (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Obscure enough that Death either forgot about them or decided not to bother?

Date: 2011-12-08 01:19 pm (UTC)
tzipwich: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tzipwich
I think the Dead Avengers who didn't re-die stayed alive.

Date: 2011-12-08 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Swordsman and Yellowjacket haven't shown up anywhere. But I suppose any writer could potentially use Chaos War as an excuse to bring them back. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

Date: 2011-12-07 08:24 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
... so Doom is a White Lantern?

Date: 2011-12-07 08:42 pm (UTC)
turtlefu: (Default)
From: [personal profile] turtlefu
Wow, I haven't been a fan of series, but...
the constant retcon retcon retconning is getting annoying. This feels like continuity porn.

Date: 2011-12-07 10:14 pm (UTC)
introverted_excavator: Mai from Avatar: The Last Airbender with her knives (Mai)
From: [personal profile] introverted_excavator
If it sticks, this is a really cheap way of bringing Jean back.

Date: 2011-12-07 10:39 pm (UTC)
red_menace: BFF? (Default)
From: [personal profile] red_menace
I don't mind if Marvel wants to erase some of their crappier death decisions from recent years, but I wish to god it was in a book that I don't forget exists for months at a time.

Date: 2011-12-07 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Out of curiosity, why do you still have a Billy Kaplan avatar and make posts about Children's Crusade if you have no more interest in the Young Avengers.

Date: 2011-12-07 11:55 pm (UTC)
red_menace: BFF? (Default)
From: [personal profile] red_menace
I wanna say three, but who even knows anymore? By my math this thing should have ended in October.

Date: 2011-12-08 12:47 am (UTC)
nursewretched: (A little night music...)
From: [personal profile] nursewretched
I really wish this resurrection sticks for Banshee at least, his death was beyond che-wait, Nightcrawler's dead? When did that happen?

Date: 2011-12-08 12:57 am (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Nightcrawler's dead? When did that happen?
Second Coming. The big X-Men event before Schism.

Date: 2011-12-08 02:51 am (UTC)
nursewretched: (Bartz:  Private dancer)
From: [personal profile] nursewretched
Ah, that explains it, I've been ignoring the X-titles for the last couple of years. I'm still a bit surprised that I have not heard about it, since he's pretty popular. Thank you for your reply. :)

Date: 2011-12-08 02:53 am (UTC)
nursewretched: (Ai Tominaga)
From: [personal profile] nursewretched
Not a clue, sadly enough! XD

Wow, it's like an anti-teleporter conspiracy or something.

Date: 2011-12-08 12:53 am (UTC)
salinea: Scarlett Witch hugging Billy and Tommy (*hugs*)
From: [personal profile] salinea
As a long time A Song of Ice and Fire fan, I find all those "OH NOES! One issue is two months late! And it was only bimensual in the first place! I don't care about this story anymore now!" thing befuddling.

Am I, like, the only person who still very much enjoy the story, delays and all, and very much looking forward to its conclusion? oh well :/

Date: 2011-12-08 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I'm still enjoying the story. It's better than most of what Marvel is putting out. Cheung's art is amazing and Heinberg writes a lot of truly great and genuine character moments. I can't wait to see how it ends.

I honestly don't understand the obsession everyone has with where it fits in continuity (it happened sometime after Siege and Second Coming, what more do we need to know?).

I get complaints about the delays which are ridiculous. But people have been complaining since the beginning of the series about the two month wait, everyone just wants the whole story right away, no patience.

Date: 2011-12-08 04:46 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Dr. Doom, when he comes back from death as Doom the white, he brings FRIENDS.


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