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Diane Darcy ([personal profile] aeka) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-12-15 03:51 pm

Second Dark Knight Rises Trailer Leaked

Well peeps, as some of you may know, the second trailer along with the prologue will debut tonight at midnight with Sherlock Holmes and Mission Impossible. However, as usual, someone was kind enough to leak it online.

The sound and visual quality isn't great, but at least this gives us an idea of what we're in for. :}

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Description of the trailer in case video goes bye bye: it just me or has Bruce and Selina dancing at a masquerade ball become a cliche now in Bat cinema?

For legality:

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[personal profile] mrstatham 2011-12-16 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
But he's still the personification of that ideology, really, and has a variety of different mannerisms and the like that signify him as being his own person, just like Batman is the embodiment of whatever ideology he represents. I just think Ledger's Joker is a very poorly thought out character, in some ways. Astonishing, yes, but that doesn't mean the character's perfect.

I always thought the scene with the ferries fell drastically short of what Nolan was trying to accomplish, though. The prisoners, for instance, don't display their will for good, as Batman declares - One big-ass guy with facial scars simply intimidates the Hell out of the officer holding the detonator and throws it out the window. The people on the other boat were perfectly willing to use the detonator until it came to crunch time and they couldn't turn the switch; That they at least considered it half-proves Joker right, and that they eventually decide otherwise half-proves Batman right..

The Joker is, again, full of crap anyway. He's willing to drop his own ideology in a second when people don't go along with his suggestions, as his attempt to use his own detonator shows. So Nolan definitely should've focused on delivering a more consistent message, I think.
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[personal profile] valtyr 2011-12-16 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's just it - I don't think he is, or is meant to be, his own person. That's why his story changes depending upon who he's speaking to.

I think the boats are meant to indicate that a mass of people can shamble towards goodness on average, mostly, and the acts of a few people can make a significant difference there. I mean, of course they considered it! People fear death. It doesn't prove Joker's ideology that they considered it.
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[personal profile] mrstatham 2011-12-16 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll be honest, I thought the Joker's tall tales about his scarring was just a really badly incorporated reference to Killing Joke's 'multiple choice' idea. He's a character, otherwise bunches of people wouldn't recognise him as one, and he's his own person - he clearly has fun fucking around with people, but I think he's just contradictory and difficult to pin down - and not in the oft-quoted agent of chaos-bullshit way, more a 'Nolan threw some shit together and kept what stuck' way.

As for the boats.. I'm inclined to agree with the 'acts of a few' idea, since that mirrors Batman's own plight, but I still don't see that entirely as what Nolan meant to put across.