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ComicBookResources has the preview of issue #7, and the creepiness factor continues.

And I think I have an explanation about the past issues about the art.

UPDATE: Looks like there is a change in the talent behind Batwoman.






Yikes!

Ok, we've all had discussions about the art on the recent books Batwoman, and how Kathy and Bruce have different visuals/art applied to them compared to the other characters (except the other supernaturals we have seen) and how they transcend the page, as they look painted or more details than the other characters, or themselves out of costume.

I think this was done on purpose, as it seems we are having urban legends fighting other urban legends, as Bloody Mary is brought into the conflict, as we have seen La Llorona.

I hope this Maro character get's his comeuppance soon.

*******

It should get it's own thread, and I will ask someone who is more versed in this to do so, but here is the update:

Amy Reeder isn't on Batwoman anymore, due to creative differences.

Date: 2012-03-12 03:52 pm (UTC)
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"Show, don't tell" is kind of a basic rule in writing, though. It would be pretty terrible if everyone keeps talking about a villain doing terrible crimes and we don't see them do anything.

Plus, I think the point of these prologues is less about showing that they're evil and credible (those are a given) and more about showing what their powers are and what they're like. Take, for example, a show like Supernatural. Of course it's a given that every episode they're going to fight some evil monster threat, but there's the pre-credits sequence where the monster kills a civilian to show the audience who the monsters are, instead of a boring exposition dialogue during breakfast of "What are we hunting this week, Sam?" "Oh, a Brazilian Ghoul Chicken. You see, they don't just kill their victims, first they cluck three times and dance the samba and then when the target gets scared they would burst through the ceiling bla bla bla bla" just show it already.

Date: 2012-03-12 04:32 pm (UTC)
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"Show, don't tell" is kind of a basic rule in writing, though. It would be pretty terrible if everyone keeps talking about a villain doing terrible crimes and we don't see them do anything.

Yes, but surely there is a middle ground between "never show the villain do anything evil" and "every single story ever must have a prologue where the villain slaughters a bunch of civilians (usually women)."

As I said, my issue isn't with the trope itself, but with its overuse. I don't necessarily object to its use in this one Batwoman story, but I do object to its use in so many Marvel/DC stories.

I also disagree that, at least in most cases, the purpose of those scenes is to show what the villain's powers/abilities are. More often than not, the deaths are rather predictable (ie: a monstruous beast-like villain eats his victims, a large muscular one beats them to death, a clown-ish one kills them with fire or acid, a telepathic one drives them insane or makes them bran dead, a wizard one turns them into an animals or uses them as human sacrifices for a spell, etc etc).

And, given that the villain is going to fight the hero anyway, why can't we just be shown the villain's abilities during their battle with the hero? In your Supernatural example, couldn't the monster of the week show its "cluck three times and dance the samba and blah blah blah" modus operandi directly on Sam?

Take One Piece, for example: virtually every single character in that story has fantastically outrageous powers, but we usually find about them as they fight the protagonists. Same with Bleach, we aren't told about nor shown the characters' Bankai beforehand, we get to see them for the first time during the battles. Same with Fullmetal Alchemist, neither the heroes nor the audience had any idea what the Homunculus' powers were, abilities like the indestructible shield and the lighting-fast charge and the huge monstruous transformations were all shown for the first time in the middle of the fights.

In any case, I repeat: my issue isn't with the trope itself, but with its overuse.

Date: 2012-03-12 04:45 pm (UTC)
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i do agree that the overuse of it is annoying... that said, i still think the titles i mentioned (and DC in general has done a good job at it) even Batwing which has at t imes been really violent, is not unecissarily so.

also never got turned onto One Piece or Bleach....

clown-ish one kills them with fire or acid,
*whimper* no clowns... please... *clutches crucifix tighter*

a telepathic one drives them insane or makes them bran dead
Bran dead! now that's just EVIL!!!

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