Avengers vs X-Men #2

[flint_marko]

Best scene of the issue; hope this means they'll be getting a divorce.

Wolverine and  Spider-Man break in to find Hope.


That's always your solution, isn't it Wolverine?

Comments

[sherkahn]

The first visible victim we saw was the planet where former Galactus Herald Terrax and Nova scuffled during Point One.





Yup, all the life forms that grew there are dead, and we have something growing in their place.

And most recent planetwide extinction:



Avengers vs. X-men #1:


So yeah, the Avenger's have the right idea:
Cap - Get Hope secure and off planet, redirect it elsewhere
Wolverine - End the person the Phoenix is being drawn to, to turn off the beacon.

Because the Phoenix is not stopping, nor is it a hero this time around.

[mrstatham]

Redirect it where? It's a cosmic force. NONE of them have the right idea. Wolverine's gone off the deep end because A - he has experience with the entity and B - feasibly has no idea what it'll do without the host it wants now; It could just snuff out Earth in a fit if it finds Hope dead. There is zero guarantee that killing Hope would turn off the 'beacon' luring the Phoenix in - because again, it's a fucking cosmic force.. The Avengers have a similarly bad plan. Where're they going to ship Hope off to that will stop it following them?

[sherkahn]

Redirect it where? It's a cosmic force. NONE of them have the right idea.

You have Magick who can take her to Limbo,
several ships that can go to other alien or barren places in space. And that's jut the X-men.

Strange can take her to other dimensions, Pym can take her to Microverse and beyond/below, Reed has the gate to the Negative Zone, and again, ships that can take to you to distant parts of the universe.

[mrstatham]

Right. It's a planet-eating cosmic force that has the ability to work through time and space. Who's to say that any of those methods would plausibly work? The Avengers have zero experience with this thing. The X-Men do, but their current leader is acting like a complete cretin in thinking that, hey, they can tame it and make it do their bidding. I can see your reasoning, but this whole event is just fucking nonsense in the face of the fact that Marvel want their two big teams to batter each other via the butchering of a classic concept. The Phoenix is basically this summer's Iron Man in this summer's Civil War.

[auggie18]

Note that the only times the Phoenix has been shown doing evil things (during the original Dark Phoenix Saga and during this) are when it doesn't have a host. (Ignoring the fact the Phoenix hasn't been evil in about 30 years, of course, and this is terrible characterization.)