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[personal profile] sherkahn posting in [community profile] scans_daily has further update as to who is the Big Bad that is bringing the Spider-men from two very different universes together.

    "Mysterio, the nefarious magic man who has been a Spider-Man villain since the hero's earliest days, is the guy who finds a rift between the regular Marvel Universe and the alternate-reality Ultimate Universe, a plot device that is central to the upcoming Spider-Men."


    "Peter arrives in a world where its Peter Parker died in the line of duty being Spider-Man, inspiring Miles to become a hero, and Peter will encounter all the people who were important to the alternate version of him, such as Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane Watson.

If you read further into the story, it sounds like the writers really put some heart into this, a true "miles stone" (pun intended) for the heroes who wear the webs.
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Date: 2012-04-28 02:40 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
I note those are all 616 villains in the picture.

Date: 2012-04-28 02:59 am (UTC)
eaglet_auditore: A happy Jaime is a good Jaime (Default)
From: [personal profile] eaglet_auditore
Ok, another crossover I'm looking forward to. Mostly because of Miles, but I wonder how Peter will react upon entering a world where he's died. ...I wonder how his aunt will react.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:00 am (UTC)
littlepunkryo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] littlepunkryo
Man, getting to see Peter all grown up when her Peter died as a's gonna be tough for her, I think.

I'm excited as well.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
So, this is being labeled as an event that will impact both the Ult.-verse and the 616, involves Peter meeting the Ultimate versions of characters like Gwen Stacy...and the upcoming movie has Gwen as Peter's love interest...

How much do y'all want to bet that the big reveal in Spider-Men is that the Ultimate Gwen Stacy's going to make her way into the 616?

Date: 2012-04-28 03:11 am (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
A Mysterio who plays with alternate realities?

The hell? That's the plot from Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions (game).

Date: 2012-04-28 03:18 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
Oh shit, you're right. Man, I heard somebody suggest that jokingly, can't believe that's what they're going with.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:18 am (UTC)
eaglet_auditore: Jaime is thinking about girls. .. (dreaming)
From: [personal profile] eaglet_auditore
If done well, it would be one powerful moment.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:27 am (UTC)
venatosapiens: griffin vulture (Default)
From: [personal profile] venatosapiens
I hope they don't do that for a number of reasons, including but not limited to the fact that Ultimate Gwen is significantly younger then 616 Parker. By like, a lot.
But then, considering the lengths they went to to bring Ult! Fury into the 616, who the hell knows?

Date: 2012-04-28 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Quick question--how old is she right now in the Ult-verse? Plus they could kinda tip-toe around it--maybe Gwen falls for the 616 Peter and Peter doesn't want to go to prison.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:51 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
I would say she's about the same age as 616 Gwen was when she died.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Well, that would put her at about college age, right? She'd certainly be legal.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:57 am (UTC)
venatosapiens: griffin vulture (Default)
From: [personal profile] venatosapiens
I think she's 17. I think. I'd have to check.

Plus, I would hope she wouldn't fall for 616 Peter because 616 Peter isn't nearly as good a person.

Date: 2012-04-28 03:57 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
Yes, but the age gap would be about 5-10 years, depending on what degree Peter got. Definitely squick more then a few people out.

Date: 2012-04-28 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Gwen was 18-20 when she died. According to Marvel, Peter is around 25. Logically, there's no way that's possible, but that's what they want. I don't think a 25 year old dating an 18 year old would raise too many eyebrows. Even a 30 year old dating a 20 year old wouldn't be too unusual.

Date: 2012-04-28 04:26 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
Ok, if you say so. I admit I'm not very perceptive when it comes to anything like that, so you're probably right.

Date: 2012-04-28 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] maseiken
That's exactly what I was thinking. Kinda weird, given that there's already a precedent for 616/Ultimate crossover circa Ultimate Fantastic 4/Marvel Zombies.
Or do we not talk about Marvel Zombies?

Date: 2012-04-28 05:14 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
And all but The Lizard (ugh) are almost in their most "classic" forms.

Date: 2012-04-28 05:20 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
Electro looks like he's sporting his new look, as well

Date: 2012-04-28 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
How so?

And no, I'm not counting OMD/BND, just because that wasn't the character being a bad person, but rather bad writing.

Date: 2012-04-28 06:04 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
I'm intrigued. I haven't picked up a Spider-man title in some time, but this one may be the first...

Date: 2012-04-28 06:05 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Ult!Gwen's around the same age as Peter. Bendis always stuck to Ult!Peter being about fifteen throughout the vast majority of his run. And we saw him have just one birthday before he died, as I recall. So Gwen's about sixteen.

Date: 2012-04-28 06:10 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
When it comes to stuff like BND/OMD and some of the stuff Peter's done since, bad writing becomes linked to the perception of the character. So when Peter comes out with wheatcakes bullshit, has sex with a woman in a hotel room they've commandeered whilst demanding they keep their masks on, rips Kraven's wife's face off (from what I remember) and numerous other pieces of bullshit - including stuff like letting the new Kraven think his roommate was Spider-Man - he's a bad character and person. Ult!Gwen is, also, too young for him and it'd just be completely skeevy and weird. Imagine Peter of the 616, who was basically defined by that fucking bridge incident, dumping all his expectations on a sixteen year old girl who doesn't know who the fuck he is, he has that little in common with her Peter.

Date: 2012-04-28 06:11 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Nobody talks about Marvel Zombies because Marvel rode that cash cow until it collapsed dead in the dirt.

Date: 2012-04-28 06:11 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
I thought they said that his whole Spider-Man career lasted 2 years? Otherwise, with the time skip at the end of Ultimatum, that's a whole lot crammed into less then a year.

Date: 2012-04-28 06:27 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
A few things: He didn't rip her entire face, just kind of took the first few layers of skin off, which was understandable. She had just killed a young girl he knew, one of the people he trusted most, and his clone, who he saw as a brother. Plus, he was in terrible physical condition, and there was a lot of magic shit going on that may have affected his mind. And with the roommate thing, he was actually impersonating Spider-Man, irc. I don't remember him setting anything up. He was going around committing crimes dressed as Spider-Man. And while the bridge definitely greatly influenced him, I wouldn't say he is defined by it.
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