Earth 2 #1

May. 2nd, 2012 01:49 am
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Apokolips led by Steppenwolf has wiped out Metropolis and pretty well conquering Earth and in a last mad desperate gamble. The Trinity of Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman manage to free the world from the Parademon grip, sacrificing themselves in the process in grand fashion.

Five years later on the anniversary of the Trinity deaths to save the earth.

Sitting silently by himself in the woods depress by Joan words. Jay Garrick meets Mercury after witnessing him crash near by in a crater.
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Date: 2012-05-02 08:16 pm (UTC)
biod: (Sad Batman)
From: [personal profile] biod
I am of the firm belief that everything else here is stupid, but that goodbye was genuinely touching.

Date: 2012-05-02 08:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] milleniumrex
Kinda makes all the pre-release worries about fridging Lois and Selina to give Clark and Bruce angst look pretty irrelevant now...

Glad it's not going to be another Trinity title.

Date: 2012-05-02 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
You know, between reading an interview by Robinson yesterday and reading this issue, I think I figured out what this book is and why it feels so weird.

With the exception of their first appearences, the JSA has pretty much always been the grandfather figures of the DCU. What Robinson seems to be doing is creating a contemporary and modern take on the original JSA when they were young and vital.

It's certainly different from what we've seen before, but it doesn't make it less valid, and I'm really kinda digging it.

Date: 2012-05-02 08:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filthysize
Wow. Did not expect Wonder Woman to take a magic carpet ride to the afterlife.

Date: 2012-05-02 08:44 pm (UTC)
aeka: (Huntress [whatevs]:)
From: [personal profile] aeka
Absolute shite. All 40 pages of this book.

The only thing good about this book was Nicola Scott's art, but even that's not enough to entice me into buying #2.

Date: 2012-05-02 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Wow, going from his old DCU Justice Society related stuff to this is... kind of impressive.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It's a very odd choice, given we already have the fledgling hero team coming together in JLA. JSA following in their footsteps seems a bizarre choice.

And Jay and Joan as a young couple, just starting out (Well, not even a couple here) five years AFTER the Trinity died? Weird....

Date: 2012-05-02 09:27 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The art is beautiful, and the tears streaming down Helena's face as her Dad says goodbye, that packs a punch....

Date: 2012-05-02 09:28 pm (UTC)
drexer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drexer
So, what is the super-identity of the girl?

Wait, our here is the guy? Damnit, there goes my interest.

On a more serious note, if they had presented this with a more serious note like the first couple of pages and forgot instead about recasting old characters as 20 year old retypes of Hal Jordan, I might be interested in it. As it is though, nah.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:30 pm (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
Aside from the killing off of the Earth-2 Trinity (doesn't it seem Diana has been killed in that same manner - from behind, with a sword before?) after hyping them complete with press-releases there's the other portrayals...

Was Joan and Jay the longest-lasting marriage in the DCU (and wasn't she a blonde when younger)? They were two characters who actually aged in real time as in the Golden Age they were very young and then aged into their 90s.

And now this - Joan's break-up sex and goodbye, loser, I'm outta here to Jay. Really, Robinson? I mean....really. WTF? If even Joan and Jay can't survive the reboot there really must be some kind of internal editorial directive vis-a-vis marriage (and its non-existence) in DC Comics.

I love Nicola Scott. But I have zero interest in this.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
With Jay and Joan, like I said, that was how the character started out--as a college student who's girl just left him.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
"doesn't it seem Diana has been killed in that same manner - from behind, with a sword before?"

I seem to recall something similar happening during the opening cinema for the DCU MMO--she was stabbed in the back by Deathstroke, I think.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] atom_punk
Right here.

Diana was actually electrocuted by Luthor. Superman got stabbed with kryptonite in the back though.

This trailer still blows me away when I see it.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:44 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
Well, if you think about it from the original Golden Age, the Trinity did come first, with two of them serving on the JSA. So if it's a full-on modern take on the JSA, it works in that respect.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:46 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
Who's to say they don't get back together? Maybe he makes something of himself as The Flash and she sees the changes he's made?

Date: 2012-05-02 09:48 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
On a whim, I picked this up. And to be honest, I didn't think it was that bad. I actually like the idea that the Trinity fell and now there's a new crop of heroes that are going to come out. As I said in response to icon_uk, comparing it with the original JSA, Superman and Wonder Woman were both members originally, so this is sort of a modern take on that.

And of course, Nicola Scott knocks everything right out of the park.

So yeah, I'm not 100% sold on it, agreeing with's 6/10, but it's solid enough that I'll probably try the next few issues.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] milleniumrex
Joan and Jay are 21. It's obvious to me that part of his "Hero's Journey" as the Flash on this world will be to win her back.

Still, she definitely came off as a bit...unpleasant in this issue.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:52 pm (UTC)
captainbellman: It Was A Boojum... (Default)
From: [personal profile] captainbellman
Poor Jay Garrick. If only his woman knew her place, and didn't go off to have a career and life of her own. Man, bitches, huh? Guess he'll just have to become yet another blandly forgettable 'gritty' superhero to heal the wound. Wee lamb.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:56 pm (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
Maybe. It's weird to see them at this supposed age (younger than Hal Jordan and Barry Allen). And I actually liked the idea that was prevalent in the Golden Age where there were a lot of couples - Dian Belmont/Sandman, Shiera Sanders/Carter Hall, Inza and Kent Nelson, and Joan Williams and Jay Garrick who were helpmates and partners all the way from beginning to end.

Date: 2012-05-02 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Okay, I remembered a WW/Deathstroke fight, but forgot Luthor finished her off.

Date: 2012-05-02 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blueprintstyles
until I see a body buried I'm under the assumption they're all alive.

Date: 2012-05-02 10:05 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Except the Trinity have been dead for five years after presumably having a suitably long career, leaving a Robin and a Supergirl/Power Girl behind, BEFORE Flash first appears.

Date: 2012-05-02 10:13 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
Sure, but I'm just talking about the core Trinity. They didn't join the team, no, but they still came first. That's still a basic grounding parallel to the Golden Age JSA.

Date: 2012-05-02 11:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] turtlefu
I hate "hero's journeys" that involve "winning" a girl.

Women are not prizes for males to win or own to support their egos.

Date: 2012-05-02 11:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kenn_el
I think the difference (for me, at least) is that we're really NOT seeing the formation of the Justice League as it happens, while apparently we will see the Society form. Also, the powers that be don't seem all that consistent when it comes to Earth 1 timelines and all, whereas maybe with Earth 2 the lack of too many cooks will make a more coherent and accessible world. I liked it quite a bit.
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