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Okay so, in the DC New 52 FCBD (Free Comic Book day for the uninitiated) Issue, it was revealed who the Trinity of Sin are.

One was Pandora, the other, as assumed, was the Phantom Stranger, and the third, probably comes to a surprise, ends up to be a person who appears to be The Question aka Vic/Charlie Sage.

(Sorry for the Quality, but i took it with my camera phone….)

What I found interesting was the reveal of the Phantom Stranger’s Identity.

As far as I remember, there have only ever been hints as to who he used to be. But in the FCBD issue, it seems like it is pretty much revealed who he was.

Hmmm Forgive me as HE would… interesting…

You’re greed has darkened the World forever… those are Silver Pieces that the Wizard (i am assuming) is playing with.

The Silver Pieces are what form his necklace, thing.

I think if it is not clear, it is pretty heavily implied that the Phantom Stranger is Judas Iscariot, the man who in Judeo-Christian teachings betrayed Jesus for Thirty Pieces of Silver. The fact that they say his greed “Darkened the world” and the items used to bind him are pieces of silver. As well as the “Forgive me as HE would Line” (since Jesus Preached Forgiveness). Judas was actually one of the implied identities for the Phantom Stranger, and i think this has been one of the biggest “hints” we have ever been given as to his identity. Interesting :D

Now the other Reveal, the Third member of the Trinity of Sin is revealed as I said above, to be the Question.

The Anti-Establishment, the No Face, and the Question Mark Puff of Smoke seem to indicate that this is the newest incarnation of the Question. Im interested to see how this plays out… It’s a different take, and it can be interesting….

The Third member of the Trinity is Pandora, and she is revealed to be…

Yeah as most people suspected, she is THE Pandora. As in Pandora’s Box.

What i find interesting is that the mythical Pandora is a Pre-Judeo-Christian Character, Judas Iscariot is a Judeo-Christian Figure. So, since these two sinners have been pulled from percievably different ages, its possible that the Question pulled her was pulled from a more modern era. Meaning that the Likely hood that he is still Victor Sage seems all the more likely. The Rock of Eternity stands outside of time and space so it is conceivable that these Gods, Ancients, or Wizards have been able to pull the three “greatest” sinners from all of time to the Rock from their respective time Periods. So there You have it. Pandora, Judas Iscariot, and Victor Sage, are the Trinity of Sin. Im actually very interested to see where they will go with this… Color me intrigued DC.

Date: 2012-05-06 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Someone mentioned it upthread, but I'm going to chime in with agreement- the Question isn't supposed to be anyone we recognize, his identity is removed as part of his punishment and everyone forgets his name.

I like the Question as the borderline mad (decide for yourself which side of the border) conspiracy theorist he was in JLU, but on the other hand, I'm not crazy about his origins as a Randian Superman, so mark me down as interested to see how this depiction turns out.

Tying him to a mystical origin might go some ways towards explaining why he was running around as an urban shaman in Superman recently. Wasn't that post-reboot?

Date: 2012-05-06 05:26 pm (UTC)
bewareofgeek: (Crazy)
From: [personal profile] bewareofgeek
So he's gone from being Rorshach to Ozymandias? ;)

Date: 2012-05-06 05:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bewareofgeek
Oh, and the urban shaman story (Veitch's mini) was all the way back in 2005.

Date: 2012-05-06 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Ah, I've only seen it on here, and that fairly recently, so I wasn't sure.

Date: 2012-05-07 01:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bewareofgeek
It was an interesting mini... as a standalone. But nobody ran with it, or even referenced it, and it was basically quietly Mopeed.

Which is basically the point. Vic (and later Renee) filled a niche. Not always the same way, but with the same spirit... someone who found the answers that people with power wanted unsaid.

Adding mystical trappings (the Veitch mini, Renee's Mark of Cain subplot) detract from that, IMO. It makes the character less of a champion of the disenfranchised, and more a character whose powers drive the story.

TL;DR: The Question doesn't NEED superpowers. Just strength of will, and a thirst for justice.

Date: 2012-05-07 04:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] riddler13
The Question doesn't NEED superpowers. Just strength of will, and a thirst for justice.

Heck YEAH!


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