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Penguin has been keeping Batman busy and away from a big gala dinner party.

You know Bruce is not going to let Oswald ruin his mother legacy. As he wanted to expand the Martha Wayne Children' center with a hefty donation to the hospital.

Date: 2012-10-05 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
And suddenly Detective Comics becomes good again! :D

Date: 2012-10-05 05:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] anothermoviegeek
I was honestly close to dropping my Bat titles, but after this issue at least Detective is getting a stay. Also glad to see them talking more about Martha over Thomas.

Date: 2012-10-05 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Well, that's been a thing that's happened a lot in the comics--Court of Owls focused a lot on her mother, same with Dini's last arc of Streets of Gotham. Hell, even All-Star Batman says that Bruce's compassion comes from her.

Date: 2012-10-05 02:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
All-Star Batman says that Bruce's compassion comes from her.

All star batman has compassion?

Date: 2012-10-05 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
When you consider the first nine issues as a character arc, yes, he does--he just had to be reminded of it when he starts training Robin. Here's a great article that really nails what the Frank Miller interpretation of Batman is.

Date: 2012-10-05 07:38 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Yeah, what madness is this?

Date: 2012-10-05 05:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
I gotta say I am digging this look on Penguin.

He actually looks like a normal person here. Too many people try and go for the Danny Devito Burton look and make him look like almost a cariacture, but this Penguin looks like he would not be out of place in the Nolan films.

Date: 2012-10-05 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Honestly, I think the Devito take on Penguin is my favorite. That was one of the few cases where he didn't feel like a cheap gimmick villain or a random crime boss, but a legitimate super-villain worthy of being part of the Batman rogues gallery.

Date: 2012-10-05 08:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
This. There's a reason Burgess Meredith and DeVito are basically my favourite takes on the character. One had a fucking penguin-shaped submarine, the other was insane enough to strap explosives to penguins and address them like he was Patton.

I don't usually mind the character - I like him in Arkham City, for instance - but I like him more when he's elevated a bit more beyond simple 'crime boss operating through a legit front', both in appearance and in methods. Otherwise it just feels like there's little to distinguish him from a contemporary Black Mask or whatever.

But then, as it is, I've never seen that many artists draw him in the style of DeVito. I've seen him squat, long-nosed and with sharp teeth, but I've never seen anything remotely close to the stringy-haired, green-toothed, black bile-spilling, flipper-fingered monster in an oversized babygrow that Devito was.

Date: 2012-10-05 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I think the closest was David Finch during his written/drawn era of The Dark Knight.

Date: 2012-10-05 07:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] althechi
The Penguin with mutton chops? I approve.

Date: 2012-10-05 08:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I.. Don't really get Bruce's problem. Yes, Penguin's just usurped him and overshadowed his own donation, but.. Surely you can never have too many hospital wings?

Date: 2012-10-05 09:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tsukiori
I'm with you! I can see him being a bit annoyed, but...

Date: 2012-10-05 10:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thosefew
You put too many wings on a hospital and they inevitably block all entrances, trapping those within.

Date: 2012-10-05 10:42 am (UTC)
sir_razorback: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sir_razorback
Or it becomes it's own self-propelled LifeFlight service?

Date: 2012-10-05 11:19 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham

I want them to use that as an explanation in-universe, now. Like putting too many wings on the hospital was the Penguin's evil plot all along.

Date: 2012-10-05 11:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
Seconded. I get what they're going for here: a trend of recent years is to make Cobblepot an underworld reflection of Bruce Wayne, desperate for the approval of society but still a brutal thug.

But I expected Bruce's reaction not to be that of a cuckolded husband but for him to walk up to the Penguin and basically say "Hey, the name on the door doesn't matter, just as long as people get helped. Thanks for the donation, Oswald. Lets see if you can keep it up."

Date: 2012-10-05 01:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leoboiko
No, no. I expected him to act angry and offended and to childishly make an even bigger, highly publicized charitable donation. Then Cobblepot will try to top that, leading to an arms race of social help, which would be just what Bruce had planned all along.

Date: 2012-10-05 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Bruce bankrupting Oswald through bigger and bigger charitable donations would be hilarious, especially as Cobblepot doesn't have an international corperation to instantly replenish his bank balance if necessary.

Date: 2012-10-05 06:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Ditto, that would have had a degree of class to it, and be apt for the vaguely dilletante Wayne.

Date: 2012-10-05 01:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sherkahn
It's personal, because Bruce knows full well what kind of person Cobblepot is.

Date: 2012-10-05 01:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Maybe so, but it still feels a liiiiiiiittle bit like Bruce is reacting in rather the wrong way because the wing was going to be named after his mother and now it's not.

Date: 2012-10-06 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
Not to be to critical here, but I see those kind of reactions and I don't get why people have them. We know the characters, we ask for character depth, why should in depth fans ever assume that the immediate, gut reaction is the appropriate one? And once you do why stick with it after there's time to think it over?

Date: 2012-10-05 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I think it's an honor/personal obligation thing. Bruce promised that he would be there to make the money drop and do this thing, but he was so invested in solving the crimes that he quickly realized were distractions that he dropped the ball on his duties as Bruce Wayne.

Date: 2012-10-05 04:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Fair enough. I mean, personally, if I were Bruce, my answer to keep Penguin out of the spotlight would be to just start up another new centre like that entirely and dedicate it to his mother, still.

Date: 2012-10-05 01:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filthysize
Who's the other guy saying no? Luthor?

Date: 2012-10-05 02:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sir_razorback
I'm going to guess that it's the head of the Assassin Guild that was contracted to hit Bruce Wayne, realizing that they had failed (so far). It was the book's other major plotline.

Date: 2012-10-05 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
I find it highly amusing that Cobblepot's attempt to beat Bruce at his own game will be screwed by the hitmen he hired.


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