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Journey into Mystery #645


The remnant of the previous Loki appears before kid Loki, telling him Mephisto has seized the Crown of Fear. With it he will unite hell and plunge the universe into an age of darkness. There is only one way to stop him.
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If kid Loki sacrifices himself the crown will vanish and the adult Loki will take his place. Journey into Mystery was all a scheme. Loki felt the world wouldn't let him change so he set up the kid to earn everyones trust so Loki can eventually replace the child and live a life free from his past. Old loki gives the kid three conversations before it happens they are touching but page limits.

At last kid Loki stands again before his past self
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Beautiful, touching and sad.

I'm cancelling my preorder of Young Avengers though, I can't read old Loki run around in young Loki's skin

Date: 2012-10-24 09:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
Wow, this has just made Young Avengers a million times more interesting.

Date: 2012-10-24 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
If Kid Loki survived, Mephisto's crown wouldn't have disappeared. I'm thinking the more hopeful interpretations are in the "denial" stage of mourning.

Kid Loki's dead. I have no interest in reading Adult Loki in a Kid Loki skinsuit, and given that Kid Loki was potentially my only real reason for looking at Young Avengers, Marvel's lost that potential sale.

It's not really Gillen's fault though. He told an excellent story, but ultimately status quo is a stronger god than anything in the Marvel Universe. Loki will probably be back to his usual adult self in appearance as well as deed right around the time Thor 2 hits theaters, at the very latest.

Date: 2012-10-24 09:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
I liked kid!Loki and would have liked to keep him a little longer. But he was always going to be temporary.I suppose I'm the only one who liked him at least in part because he was temporary ...

(Kid!Loki was my only reason for being interested in Young Avengers, too. But it was a very tentative reason, as the whole team-up just sounded ... not very interesting to me. With this change, it becomes a whole different story to me, and one that holds much more appeal as a story.)

Date: 2012-10-24 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
I feel like that story was basically already told in Mighty Avengers.

Date: 2012-10-26 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
it's still Kid Loki in at least the first YA arc.

Date: 2012-10-26 06:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
Really? How weird. I'm not sure I'm actually interested in going back ...

Date: 2012-10-24 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Kid Loki's dead.


And in a particularly cruel way, given that he could easily have ended up dead and reunited with Leah/Hela, but they explicitly shot that down.

I have no interest in reading Adult Loki in a Kid Loki skinsuit


I'm kind of wondering who does have interest in that. Surely most fans of the old Loki just want the old Loki back? Kid Loki was interesting because he actually had the personality of a child with a lot of potential for good in him, not because he just looked like that.

Date: 2012-10-25 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thegrommit.livejournal.com
Kid Loki's dead. I have no interest in reading Adult Loki in a Kid Loki skinsuit, and given that Kid Loki was potentially my only real reason for looking at Young Avengers, Marvel's lost that potential sale.

That's a fair point, though given the quality of Gillen's work on JiM, I'd say it's a bit premature to to assume the book won't be worth reading.

Date: 2012-10-25 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
I'm not making any sort of judgment as to the quality of the story. There are simply no characters in the book that particularly interest me now, ergo...no real reason to read it.

Date: 2012-10-26 01:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] da_reap
This. All of this, always this. He's gone, and I wish he wasn't, but for the sake of the precious Status Quo he has to be- and damned if I'm paying for Lokistuff from now on. He was what the Thor franchise had been sorely needing, but they think he's done enough to hit the reset button yet again.

It's the core issue I have with comic books. The whole point is to get us to CARE about the characters so we'll buy their stories, but the industry-standard is to then demonstrate all the reasons why we shouldn't have bothered! If it isn't ridiculous mischaracterizations, it's the meaningless death of the ones we came to read about in the first place.

With a few rare exceptions, it feels like an exercise in futility, where you wind up grateful that a character you loved was at least given a graceful pointless send-off.

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