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Journey into Mystery #645

The remnant of the previous Loki appears before kid Loki, telling him Mephisto has seized the Crown of Fear. With it he will unite hell and plunge the universe into an age of darkness. There is only one way to stop him.

If kid Loki sacrifices himself the crown will vanish and the adult Loki will take his place. Journey into Mystery was all a scheme. Loki felt the world wouldn't let him change so he set up the kid to earn everyones trust so Loki can eventually replace the child and live a life free from his past. Old loki gives the kid three conversations before it happens they are touching but page limits.

At last kid Loki stands again before his past self



Beautiful, touching and sad.

I'm cancelling my preorder of Young Avengers though, I can't read old Loki run around in young Loki's skin
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Date: 2012-10-24 07:24 pm (UTC)
darth_cloudo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darth_cloudo
I just read the issue. I am so, so sad.

I was expecting a sad ending but...not like this.

Tragedy in thirty one parts indeed.
Ugh. :(

Although is that foreshadowing with the "it's beyond any of OUR power"? Maybe? Hopefully? No?

Okay. :[
Edited Date: 2012-10-24 07:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-24 07:28 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I'm cancelling my preorder of Young Avengers though, I can't read old Loki run around in young Loki's skin

it might not be that.... Adult Loki might try to be Kid Loki... or there might actually be a part of Kid Loki still alive in him....

though one thing i did notice though, did the crows change places? meaning instead of being a representation of the part of Adult loki in kid loki's mind did he become kid loki's portion in adult loki's mind?

because if he killed the bird, then shouldn't that mean the part of Adult Loki is gone?

Date: 2012-10-24 07:31 pm (UTC)
majingojira: (Default)
From: [personal profile] majingojira
Yeah, you I think you're jumping to conclusions there, since kid Loki defies Loki's plans off hostile take over, it's still Kid Loki, but it's now got some more old Loki flavorings. Notice that he did not put on the crown and cackle evilly. There's a lot of ways to read it, but I really don't think "Old Loki is now using Kid Loki as a meat puppet" fits.

Ya know, I wouldn't be surprised if Young Avengers first 12 issues weren't Kid Loki's suicide attempt to make sure the old him doesn't corrupt him completely.

Date: 2012-10-24 07:33 pm (UTC)
majingojira: (Default)
From: [personal profile] majingojira
True, but he ate part of it, to me that means he took part of it into himself. That can be read in multiple ways, but I don't think Adult Loki took over Kid Loki entirely. Perhaps, not even at all.

Date: 2012-10-24 07:46 pm (UTC)
mesmiranda: (bloody hell)
From: [personal profile] mesmiranda
My wallet thanks you, Marvel! Great decision!

Date: 2012-10-24 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I thought this was a great ending to Gillen's Journey into Mystery

The other Leah growing up to become Hela was really cool

Date: 2012-10-24 08:30 pm (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
So Mini!Loki's love interest grew up to be his daughter? How Olympian.

Date: 2012-10-24 08:53 pm (UTC)
leoboiko: manga-style picture of a female-identified person with long hair, face not drawn, putting on a Japanese fox-spirit max (Default)
From: [personal profile] leoboiko
Wasn't there something about Ikol being in Kid Loki’s head all the time? So he was part of him after all? So isn’t this like someone with split personalities merging in a single one?

Date: 2012-10-24 08:54 pm (UTC)
leoboiko: Celestial thumbs up! (thumbsup)
From: [personal profile] leoboiko
I really love the art here. Old Loki feels very numinous.

Date: 2012-10-24 08:55 pm (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
The other Leah growing up to become Hela was really cool
lad to see my guess validated ^^

Date: 2012-10-24 09:07 pm (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Oh, honey; it's worst than that. Kid Loki doesn't say that he wins because he survives in old Loki. He says he wins because just by doing what he's doing Old Loki does doom himself to being what he has always been. That's why Old Loki loses. That's the bitterest of victory for Kid Loki.

(Though I wouldn't be surprised if Young Avengers did indeed bring about some subtlety to it).

Date: 2012-10-24 09:21 pm (UTC)
majingojira: (I Reject Your Reality)
From: [personal profile] majingojira
Honestly, with Loki, nothing is cut and dried as far as I'm concerned.

Date: 2012-10-24 09:24 pm (UTC)
salinea: kid!Loki, smiling adorably (*g*)
From: [personal profile] salinea

Date: 2012-10-24 09:27 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
Wow, this has just made Young Avengers a million times more interesting.

Date: 2012-10-24 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
If Kid Loki survived, Mephisto's crown wouldn't have disappeared. I'm thinking the more hopeful interpretations are in the "denial" stage of mourning.

Kid Loki's dead. I have no interest in reading Adult Loki in a Kid Loki skinsuit, and given that Kid Loki was potentially my only real reason for looking at Young Avengers, Marvel's lost that potential sale.

It's not really Gillen's fault though. He told an excellent story, but ultimately status quo is a stronger god than anything in the Marvel Universe. Loki will probably be back to his usual adult self in appearance as well as deed right around the time Thor 2 hits theaters, at the very latest.

Date: 2012-10-24 09:53 pm (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
This might actually be the first instance I can remember of Old Loki not looking malevolent. He looks downright sincere here, usually I'd expect him to be sporting a villainous smirk or something.
I get the feeling this is going to go down as a classic run.
Edited Date: 2012-10-24 09:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-24 09:57 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
I liked kid!Loki and would have liked to keep him a little longer. But he was always going to be temporary.I suppose I'm the only one who liked him at least in part because he was temporary ...

(Kid!Loki was my only reason for being interested in Young Avengers, too. But it was a very tentative reason, as the whole team-up just sounded ... not very interesting to me. With this change, it becomes a whole different story to me, and one that holds much more appeal as a story.)

Date: 2012-10-24 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
I feel like that story was basically already told in Mighty Avengers.

Date: 2012-10-24 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
In a manner of speaking. I found it a very interesting and poetic take on the myth. Loki is her "father" in the sense that he technically created her, but she's not the fruit of his loins or anything like that. Gillen rather elegantly solved the long-standing Marvel riddle of how Hela seemed to be older and more powerful than her purported father while still lending some truth to the ancient mythology.

Date: 2012-10-24 10:22 pm (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Don't forget Wiccan has a connection to Mephisto.

Date: 2012-10-24 10:22 pm (UTC)
seisachtheia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] seisachtheia
I cannot even process this. Though the art was very pretty.

Date: 2012-10-24 10:41 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Is Speed in the new series too? He should be another errant pie slice as well.

Date: 2012-10-24 10:52 pm (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Not that we know of.
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