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7 pages from New Mutants #52

This takes place sometimes after after Mutant Massacre in which Kitty was wounded into being permanently dephased (which was fixed thanks to Doctor Doom, LOL). So yeah, Illyana feels pretty unbalanced with her roomie & best friend as well as everything else.

So yeah, despite everything else face palmy or groan worthy in events to follow, I still find this last page very "awww" inducing.

Also why recently, in A vs X Consequence miniseries when we found out Magneto and Magik were hanging out together, I was disappointed we never had a scene seeing what the two had to say to one another.

Date: 2012-12-20 11:04 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
This is really cool! Way before my time, but still, I really like it.

And it makes them being on the same team in the new books fairly interesting now, though yes - I hope to see them interact soon. It also makes the decision of 'Villain it is' (in Consequences) a little depressing.

Date: 2012-12-20 11:23 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Katie Cook Doug)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Worth noting though, that this example isn't Sienkiewicz.(He did the cover, not the interiors of #52), this is Rick Leonardi.

Date: 2012-12-22 04:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmcninja
Sorry, but in Inferno, didn't they all end up winning against their evils? The only ones who failed were Havok (and thats questionable) and Longshot (and only directly because of N'astirth or whatever his name was). The rest of them trumped their other evils, and the New Mutant outside of Illyana were almost totally unaffected. Then Illyana ended the entire event by throwing away the literal manifestation of her evil.

It was a depressing event, but I think everything worked out for the best for everyone, right? Although it has been a while since I read it.

Date: 2012-12-23 03:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmcninja
I'll be honest, I was ready to contend that Illyana's story was more on of rebirth and redemption, but after reading your metaphor-for-abuse explanation down below, I don't think I can. It's something I've never considered or realize. I need to think on that, because it makes a hell of a lot of sense and other things are falling into place now too.

Date: 2012-12-23 03:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmcninja
Yikes, that spelling and grammar.

Date: 2012-12-20 11:18 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
This! This is why I've been wanting Magneto/Magik interaction since forever. WHY WHY WHY are we not getting it?! *grumbles*

Date: 2012-12-20 11:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
It's really surprising how much I'm enjoying ANXM, considering how many things in it are not as I'd want them!

Date: 2012-12-20 11:20 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I remember this story, and even then I remember being just plain puzzled by Illyana's attitude and to be honest I still am.

Getting help from someone to overcome an otherwise fairly unstoppable monster is not a sign of weakness, asking for help never is, and I see nothing wrong at all in getting help from a friend/ally in stopping it, it's what being in a team is all about, and learning to trustpeople, which is something that neither Belasco nor S'ym understood..

If she HAD accepted his help, the whole of the "Inferno" event could have been avoided for starters.

Date: 2012-12-21 12:46 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I don't think I'd ever considered Illyana's story to be quite such a metaphor, but I can see that reading of it when you phrase it like that, thanks for the interesting take on it, will need to ponder that.

Date: 2012-12-21 05:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] marghammerman
Wow, thanks... Illyana's character arc always bothered me, but I wasn't really sure about the specifics of why. What you're identifying as the central problem makes so much sense to me, though: that supposedly the only way to "save" Illyana is to erase her trauma (by turning her back into a child), rather than to help her negotiate it (by figuring out a way for her to live as a teenager). That's an awesome insight, even though it makes me more than a little depressed :(

Date: 2012-12-21 12:49 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Also it's interesting to note that this game of football at the end is, I think, the one from the start of Fallen Angels miniseries, which will lead to Sunspot and Warlock leaving the team.

Date: 2012-12-21 03:04 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: "Magneto Was Right" (magneto was right)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
I love this scene so much. Neither of them can go as far as "trust" but they both understand why, and Magneto is starting to help Illyana realise that who she has been doesn't have to define who she will be.

Date: 2012-12-21 06:29 am (UTC)
flo_nelja: (Default)
From: [personal profile] flo_nelja
Oui, c'est vraiment adorable !
(Et je suis d'accord sur le principe d'envoyer une lettre à Bendis pour lui rappeler que ça existe !!)

Date: 2012-12-21 03:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] morwen
I've been reading this era of New Mutants lately (for a Blog All The X-Men project), and I'm slightly puzzled that in subsequent issues Magik has a different attitude: it's almost as if they forgot that she turned down Magneto's help here. Instead, she's grateful for his help with dealing with her rebellion problem. I know you can read it as being grateful for the offer of help, but it doesn't quite ring true. In fact, until you'd posted this I'd decided my memory of #52 must have been wrong!


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