Date: 2013-01-08 10:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
sooo tiny....

Date: 2013-01-08 11:08 pm (UTC)
biod: (Sad Batman)
From: [personal profile] biod
I can feel my heart dying inside my chest. ;_;
Edited Date: 2013-01-08 11:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-08 11:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Lovely! And very cool that Zuko's VA liked it and said so! :)

Date: 2013-01-09 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I can't see nothing.

Date: 2013-01-09 08:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] monkey12
The thumbnail looks interesting. Is there a mirror to a version with a legible font size?

Date: 2013-01-09 10:54 am (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Aw that's adorbs.

Almost enough to make me forget how bad Legend of Korra was.

Date: 2013-01-09 11:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rainspirit
Wait, Legend of Korra was bad? I thought I heard the opposite?

Date: 2013-01-09 07:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
It's not just that Korra has flaws though, it's that he basically does nothing positive throughout the show and only accomplishes anything through Deus Ex Machina when her crush is in danger.

Considering the Avatar history of amazing female characters like Toph, Katara, and even Azula, Korra (who has years of experience on all three) is a mess.

Date: 2013-01-09 08:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
The pro athlete thing can be discarded completely I think. I liked pro-bending a lot in the first episode, but then they dragged that pointless storyline on for SIX EPISODES and I couldn't have given a damn by the end of it. Her being involved with pro-bending didn't really advance the story and it's not like she helped anyone or saved lives by doing it so while it might have been okay as a side-plot, and maybe getting ONE episode of focus (comparable to say, a Clark Kent the Journalist story) it was pretty much a waste of time.

Bottom line, Korra comes off as unlikeable and weak for most of the series. Escaping from Tarrlok's box is pretty much the only time she overcomes that. She spends the rest of her screen time crippled with self-doubt and emotional turmoil. It's fine to *have* that, but you have to balance it out with the hero being heroic and they didn't do that. Frickin' Meelo got a better Big Damn Hero moment than Korra ever did. And lets not even get into the love triangle/quadrangle/triangle again. Mako was such a cipher any girl being interested in him made no damn sense, so the amount of time dedicated to Korra struggling with her feelings for Mako was even more wasted.

Really though a weak and unlikable protagonist is just scratching the surface of the problems with Legend of Korra. There's the complete *bullshit* of Amon, the fully incompetent Bolin & Mako, characters constantly grabbing the idiot ball (Lin's the worst offender, Tenzin's probably second) the central conflict being given no actual support (the Equalist movement held no water because they never showed any real 'Bender Oppression' or that non-benders had worse lives than benders in any way) Iroh 2 being blatant fanservice, Deus Ex Machina after Deus Ex Machina in the last few episodes... I could continue but it makes me sad to think about it.

I tried to rationalize it as "being rushed" but the more I thought about the show as a whole the more disappointed and angry I got. And when I found out the Ehaszes weren't involved everything kinda fell into place. Legend of Korra just doesn't have good writers.

Date: 2013-01-09 08:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] biod
In hindsight, there was that moment Korra's waterspout is dissapated by Amon when the equalists attacked the stadium (which made the rush job even more infuriating)...

Date: 2013-01-09 10:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Definitely agree on Amon, that's the source of my whole "mystery that's not a mystery" comment. I mean you have a mysterious masked villain, generally that means the villain is someone we already know in disguise. But no, Amon's just some dude.

My biggest problem with Lin (and the metalbender police as whole) was that for most of the series they seemed to completely forget THEY'RE FREAKING EARTHBENDERS. Lin constantly got electrocuted unconscious via her own cables when she could have avoided it just by throwing rocks. When your villains are only winning because your heroes are terminally dumb, you are not writing a good story.

Date: 2013-01-10 08:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] benuben
"he Equalist movement held no water because they never showed any real 'Bender Oppression' or that non-benders had worse lives than benders in any way"

Eh, not true. What about the mafia guys from the first episode? And they mention that benders are the ones, who caused all wars ect. Yes, it's not rational, but that's the point. People, when facing a problem, often oversimplify the thing and blame it on whole group of people, instead of individuals actually responsible. An I would remind you, that the city is ruled by council made of benders and benders only, just like the police.

What's wrong with Tenzin? And how is Katara amazing character? Atleast Korra realized, when she did mistakes and apologized. Katara was just an asshole.
Edited Date: 2013-01-10 08:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-11 11:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
When did they show high levels of unemployment and homelessness? I don't recall any such thing. Is this something that's just hinted at, some Word of God thing, or what? Because if the show had shown a decent amount of non-benders having sucky lives I'm pretty sure I would remember it. Since one of my biggest complaints is that the Equalist Movement was based on that but they never actually showed it.

And I knew the bender gang from the beginning would be brought up. I'd like to point out that it's the only example of "bender oppression" *before* the Equalists start making terrorist attacks.

The Equalists lacked that essential grain of truth at the center of their crazy to make them believable. That's where you get a good extremist group from. A real concern that's been blown insanely out of proportion. I mean, even the Tea Party has that, and they're mostly a bunch of racist nutjobs.

As for Katara, I didn't say she was a (morally) good person. I mean she was, the whole Gaang was really. I said she was a good character, and a strong female one specifically. Good characters can be completely without morals -- and so can strong female ones for that matter. See: Azula. Korra is not a strong female character, or a good character. She's a lump who was only inspired to save the day when the boy she liked was in danger.

Date: 2013-01-12 05:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
It's entirely possible I'm exaggerating the badness of the show in hindsight, because I loved AtLA *so much* and LoK just doesn't come anywhere near it's quality. So maybe it's not that bad taken on its own? But as a successor to AtLA it's completely unworthy.

Date: 2013-01-12 02:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] benuben
I liked it.... But I do realize it's flawed and hope the second season will be much better.

One of the things that are really starting to bother me about Avatar universe is evil dad-nice mom thing. It's starting to get really damn sexist.

Date: 2013-01-14 01:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] benuben
I never said all fathers are bad. Hell, Tenzin is my favorite character of the show. I'm just saying everytime they made evil father character mothers are always good and inocent. I'm sure writers had no bad intention, but it's starting to get bit uncomfortable, especially for something like Avatar, which is one of few franchises, that otherwise really treats both genders equally.

Date: 2013-01-09 07:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
I have a few friends that were able to look past its flaws, but myself and most of my Avatar-loving compadres were really disappointed by it. Love triangles that made no sense, mysteries that just... weren't mysteries, characters we weren't given any reason to care about beyond fanboy nostalgia, and a pile of deus ex machina.

Aaron and Elizabeth Ehasz, who were Producer/Head Writer and Writer respectively on AtLA aren't involved in LoK, and it that seems to why the writing is suffering.

Date: 2013-01-09 07:52 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
I loved it, but it just fell apart in the last two episodes.

Date: 2013-01-09 08:02 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
It was an aweful end to a series and a worse ending to a first season. Either way I found the ending to be damn near inexcusable.
Edited Date: 2013-01-09 08:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-09 08:04 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
Naga and Tarlokk were the only elements in any way improved by those two episodes.

Date: 2013-01-11 11:57 am (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Agreed on both counts! Naga was a nice enough pet but hadn't really defined herself like Aapa. And then in the finale she was totally fucking awesome.

And Tarlokk blowing both himself and Amon up, well, it was nice to see him finally making the right choice. And surprising that Nickelodeon would air something so incredibly dark.

Date: 2013-01-12 03:40 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
Discovering that the person he most hated and feared was the product of the exact same upbringing as him, sacrificing everything that was left to stop the disaster from playing out again, and a convincing start of darkness?
I say those are huge assets to his character. A big fat detriment to the rest of the story, sure...


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