Shortpacked vs Frank Miller: Round 6

[starwolf_oakley]

Wednesday's Shortpacked had another Frank Miller joke. As usual, it is on-point. I, however, go off-point with idle thoughts about "Dark Knight Rises."





Seeing Ellen Yindel was the inspiration for Ellen Yin in "The Batman." A good cop who just doesn't like the idea of a masked vigilante.

I've wondered if Ellen Yin would have worked as a rookie cop in "Dark Knight Rises" instead of John Blake. We could get a better explanation than "Bruce Wayne seemed sad, and I realized Batman would be sad too." Also, we find out her legal first name is Cassandra.

Comments

[darkknightjrk]

I don't see how they were that different--at least with how Miller wrote her.

[mrstatham]

In terms of how Miller wrote Holly? In Year One? That's massively different compared to what Temple's character was like.

[darkknightjrk]

Yes, Molly in Year One compared to the girl Selina was with in Rises. From what I remember, they both served the same purpose--as a young woman who lived with Selina to show that she isn't just a selfish thief.

[mrstatham]

I still don't see it, not fully. I mean, yes, Selina saves her buddy in Rises, but that she even needed to be saved seemed like more of a ruse to let Selina thieve something on the sly. I just don't see it - especially not with the child prostitution angle Miller works into Year One.

[darkknightjrk]

Those differences seem kind-of cosmetic at best--Juno's character in Rises didn't really add that much to the overall story anyway.

[starwolf_oakley]

To bore you all with another "Monday Morning Quarterbacking/If I worked on Dark Knight Rises" story, I would have revealed at the end Jen was working for an unseen "Uncle Oswald" who wanted to take advantage of Gotham rebuilding itself. It would play into the themes of family as well as "And the adventure continues."

[darkknightjrk]

How would that worked with how she was doing things in general, though? In the movie, all she really does after Bane takes control is kinda live it up in one of the penthouses. Not to mention that it seemed like Selina had Juno with her the whole time, and she wasn't exclusively working in Gotham.

[starwolf_oakley]

Yes, Juno would have to do something more in the movie to have her own dramatic reveal. Maybe she'd kill Talia and other LoS members with a sniper rifle or something.