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If I have a perfect moment, this one be one of them. One of those air punching moments and a "oh hells yes!" It's not anything personal against Warren, a character I rather like, but that this moment seemed a perfect response to Chuck Austen's particular direction in personal relationships and a rebuttal to the whole "X-men as family" ethos, which stopped being true some time in the early nineties. Or maybe it's just the art that makes this so... satisfying.

I think the fact that this is one of my perfect moments shows what a mean-spirited little a-hole I can be sometimes.

Date: 2009-06-07 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xlineartx.insanejournal.com
I just really don't like Warren/Paige. It's sketchy.

Man, I don't know if I even like Warren in relationships. I prefer him being charming and sunny and flirting with everybody.

Date: 2009-06-07 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luxshine.insanejournal.com
I loved him with the lady cop in X-Factor, the one that had a little boy and didn't take crap from him when he got all emo just because he was blue.

What happened to her? Was she shipped off to limbo as soon as Angel got 'pretty' again?

Date: 2009-06-07 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luxshine.insanejournal.com
Yes, her!

Was she a mutant? I thought she wasn't... and I loved her and Warren together so much. I never even knew why they broke up.

Date: 2009-06-07 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proteus_lives.insanejournal.com
That was great.

Was I the only one creeped out by the way they pushed everyone to consider Warren and Paige's relationship ok?

Date: 2009-06-07 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sir_razorback.insanejournal.com
It never sat right with me... I wasn't paying all that close of attention to it at the time, but it seemed like in a very short span of time she went from 16 and with Jono, to a forced 19 and with Angel. What's her current situation I wonder?

Date: 2009-06-07 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naela.insanejournal.com
I believe the last time she cropped up was in SI: X-Men, basically flirting with Warren in the middle of a fight. In fact the whole exchange between them in that issue made me cringe. It went along the lines of Warren asking her how her love life was and Paige telling him that they could go down to base and find out.

Date: 2009-06-07 09:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-07 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
I find both Warren and Paige insufferable and creepy in these pages.

Go Jono!

Date: 2009-06-07 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erlgirl_9.insanejournal.com
To be fair, they were supposed to be acting insufferable, laying it on thick, etc, as it all turned out to be set-up so that Jono would get recruited by Weapon X after a clear break with the X-men, but...

It's so true. I rejoice inwardly whenever I see that scan XD

Date: 2009-06-07 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
Well it comes unusually naturally to them.. :3

Warren with Paige and Warren without Paige oddly seem like entirely different characters to me. I dislike her and I just can't like him with her.

Date: 2009-06-07 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
So let me get this straight. I didn't really follow the X-verse at the time, but Paige chose to break up with Jono of her own free will, and Jono gets away with a sucker punch to her new (admittedly significantly older) boyfriend, who is rather decently trying to offer an olive branch?

I may not care for Angel/Husk much, but I see nothing remotely admirable or likeable about Jono here either.

Date: 2009-06-07 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erlgirl_9.insanejournal.com
Twas a deliberate act, on the part of Jono and the X-team, for plot reasons. So, he didn't quite "get away" with anything.

That having been said, Jono is not usually remotely admirable or likeable in his interaction with girls - he's a bit of a shallow prick, actually.

I think the OP mostly likes this because of the very clear rebuttal of the supercilious "X-men are just a big, happy family" thing going on here. That's why I like it :P

Date: 2009-06-07 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xlineartx.insanejournal.com
The X-Men aren't a big happy family--they're a big, crazy dysfunctional family with tons of little cliques where everyone kind of makes fun of each other but will protect each other fiercely if need be and has tons of fun when they all get together and let their collective hair down--kind of like how real giant unconventional extended families are.

Or at least how mine is.

Date: 2009-06-07 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erlgirl_9.insanejournal.com
Which is I think why I like Jono's very clear rebuttal of the whole idea of the idea that since they're X-men, clearly they should never have problems with each other or argue or feel bad or anything.

It dun work that way, silly Angel.

Date: 2009-06-07 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorksidefiker.insanejournal.com
*gets back to work on that Jono is a Dick post*

Date: 2009-06-07 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erlgirl_9.insanejournal.com
It's a big part of his character! *fervent nods*

I'm not just saying that because I roleplay him, either :P

Date: 2009-06-07 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naela.insanejournal.com
I've always had this feeling when reading the whole Warren/Paige affair was that Austen REALLY liked Paige, but disliked Jono and how he treated her thus he was one upping Jono by throwing her together with Warren.

I dunno if I'm making any sense here, but I see it too often in fanfiction when writers tend to break up ships if they felt one half of the pair was mistreating the other.

Date: 2009-06-07 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roflstomper.insanejournal.com
There are so many things wrong with this. The art, the ship. Everything. I've loved Warren from the 90s, the good ol' classic beau who had Psylocke at his side. Now though? Ugh, the writers are just making him soap opera trash.

I really hated the whole Paige/Warren thing. I always felt it was a horrible rebound (even if it wasn't), that was done in absolutely poor taste.

Date: 2009-06-07 04:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xdoop.insanejournal.com
Did Husk and Angel ever actually breakup?

Date: 2009-06-07 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naela.insanejournal.com
Don't believe there was an actual on screen break up, seems like they kinda drifted apart with all of the big events.

Date: 2009-06-08 08:45 am (UTC)
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The smiling! The creepy smiling!

Date: 2009-06-08 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halloweenjack.insanejournal.com
Good grief, yes. Looking at that third panel, I want to knock those Crest smiles right off their jock/cheerleader faces and demand to know what they did with the characters that I used to like, or at least didn't mind.

Date: 2009-06-08 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schmevil.insanejournal.com
"SMAK"? Cause that's an appropriate sound effect.


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