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Animal Man Annual #2
Written by JEFF LEMIRE
Art and cover by TRAVEL FOREMAN
On sale JULY 31 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T+
Still reeling from the shocking death of his son, Buddy Baker is taking his grief out on the world around him. But in this special story, learn how the bonds of family can be stronger than the forces of evil—even when that evil is a horde of massive, slavering spiders!

I'm all for showing the strength of family bonds, but why evil spiders?

Cover by JOCK
On sale JULY 31 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T
A special ZERO YEAR tie-in! Bruce Wayne’s first year as the Dark Knight has just barely begun…and already dangerous elements are coalescing, leading Bruce toward his final destiny.

So...basically another origin story for Batman.

Written by JOHN LAYMAN
On sale JULY 31 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T
It’s a terrible, dangerous time to be a cop in Gotham City. At a time when police are being targeted for assassination, Gotham’s Finest also face a threat from within, as a shape-changing identity thief has infiltrated the GCPD and threatens to destroy it from within. Will he unravel the mystery behind this secretive killer before he loses any more of the few allies he has left on the force?

I wonder if all the blood is rushing to his head?

Backup story written by NICOLE DUBUC
Backup story art by CULLY HAMNER
On sale JULY 31 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T
Find out how The Flash and Green Lantern first met when a case they teamed up together to solve years ago rears its head again in the present! It involves a foe neither of them can defeat on their own, and they might not have much luck together either! The outcome of this will affect The Flash for years to come… Plus, a backup story by Nicole Dubuc (the Young Justice cartoon)!

I really hope that this cover actually happens.

On sale JULY 31 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T
What repercussions lurk beneath the surface from Brainiac’s first attack—and how does it all set the stage for the battle of Metropolis? Plus, how can the Man of Steel fight something he can’t physically stop!

I don't know, maybe he can use his brain?

Date: 2013-04-10 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] himalayan_pink
That Flash cover makes me miss Wally. Particularly since I originally thought that Green Lantern was Kyle.

(Something about the soft expression and half-clothed man in peril routine just screams Kyle.)

Date: 2013-04-10 02:13 am (UTC)
onceaskrull: (YJ: Wally animated)
From: [personal profile] onceaskrull
And something about the way Flash is holding him up just screams Wally.

Date: 2013-04-10 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sleepymax
That and Barry is wearing a costume styled after Wally's original costume.

Date: 2013-04-10 02:34 am (UTC)
zapbiffpow: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
I'm cool with Zero Year - hope Snyder writes it with a noir-Black Mirror-style feel. Although I'm unsure what new thing this is going to bring to the table.

Why not Batman and Robin: Year One? Bruce's first year working with Dick, with Jase, or with Tim, etc. It'll be a neat arc to continue B and R with while they decide who gets to be the new Robin.

Date: 2013-04-10 03:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Yeah, the thing I'm most worried about is whether it'll be able to justify itself, we don't need an 11 issue retread.

You've reminded of how I was wondering recently why there's never been a Nightwing: Year One graphic novel. It just seems like such a no brainer, you've got Batman, issues of identity, independance, and growing up, plus a main character who's one of the few male character's in comics who's not a ridiculously manly man, it's the kind of thing that I think could have real appeal as a graphic novel. It's kind of shocking that DC's never made one.

Date: 2013-04-10 09:10 am (UTC)
zapbiffpow: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
There was a Nightwing: Year One, but it was focused on just Nightwing. His relationship with Batman was just the catalyst for what happened during the whole story arc. Plus, you know, the entire "Batman kidnaps Jason" thing.

I was thinking of a dual-POV type thing, from both Batman and Robin's sides of the story. How did they get into the groove of working with each other? What were the perks and peeves of those first nights on patrol? Did they have similar or opposing thoughts about crimefighting that they'd never admit to each other?

So, something like a New 52 version of Dixon's Robin: Year One, but with Dick, Jason and Tim's experiences tied together by some interesting narrative.

Date: 2013-04-10 03:45 am (UTC)
onceaskrull: (Batman: Blake)
From: [personal profile] onceaskrull
I would love a Batman and Robin: Year One. I hope they consider that. One thing that's really felt missing in the new 52 is a fully fleshed out relationship between Bruce and Dick/Jason/Tim (afaik they've all been touched on to some degree, but there's a lot of gaps), and I'd really like to see that filled in.

At DC's New 52 panel at WonderCon, Snyder justified "Zero Year" by saying that it occurred to them that, thanks to the reboot, certain things from Batman's origin story as it's known wouldn't fit. So rather than trying to make it fit by doing a crappier version of Year One (their words), they decided to revamp it.

I can't get super excited about origin stories anymore, but I will at least keep tabs on what goes on in it.

Date: 2013-04-10 09:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Again, it's not like Batman's origin is an overly redone thing in the comics. In the main continuity, the only one we've really had is Year One, which has basically stood in place for more than twenty years. I don't think Snyder's entirely wrong in wanting to put that away and try something new, personally.

Date: 2013-04-10 12:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
But 'early Batman' has been done over and over. We've had 'Secret Origins'. We've had not just Year One, but Year Two and Year Three. We've had 'Legends of the Dark Knight' and 'Batman: Confidential'. We've had 'Batman and the Monster Men' and lots of different reboots of Batman throughout various media, not to mention the Batgirl and Robin year ones, as well.

It's been done a fair deal. I'm just not sure what they're bringing to the table that requires a year-long series to do.

Date: 2013-04-10 12:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Year Two and Year Three rely on Year One. Monster Men relies on Year One. Batman Confidential's stories were usually out of continuity. 'Early Batman' might be prominent, but a lot of the stuff from recent years relies on Year One, even Long Halloween and Dark Victory. So.. 'Early Batman' has been done, but a genuine origin story hasn't been done in years. The reboots in different media can hardly count - and I can only count bits of Batman Forever, Batman Begins, MOTP and the upcoming Arkham game - nor do stories surrounding peripheral characters. Year One is pretty much the only main-continuity origin for Batman in the last twenty five years, and with the DCnU, some bits of it do need tidying up. YO doesn't fit any more, and neither do things like Y2 and Y3, the Robin and Batgirl stories.

Date: 2013-04-10 02:26 pm (UTC)
onceaskrull: (DW: The Master)
From: [personal profile] onceaskrull
Well, I meant that I couldn't get super excited about origin stories *in general*, not just Batman origin stories, but I see where you're coming from and I never said that I disagreed with Snyder's justification. Given that we have this altered continuity, then by all means they should commit and tell us explicitly what did and didn't happen. The only thing I'm unconvinced of is whether it's a story that requires a year to tell.

Date: 2013-04-10 02:31 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Yeah, I agree with you on the length of the story; However, if it's split up into pieces like Black Mirror - with a longer storyline that comes to prominence in the final chapters - then that could work. If we could see, say, some of Bruce's training and his first outings as Batman, his first encounter with a supervillain (here's hoping for the Riddler, personally), and so on, I could see Snyder touching a lot of bases that would be interesting.

Date: 2013-04-10 02:34 pm (UTC)
onceaskrull: (Batman: Damian)
From: [personal profile] onceaskrull
Don't quote me on this but from the way Snyder described it in vague terms, that might be what we're going to see. My memory isn't the most reliable thing, but I recall Snyder saying we'd see Batman learning skills that we never knew he had (or something to that effect). So it sounds like they're working from training onward. I stopped buying Batman because I'm short on cash, but from what I've seen, it seems like Snyder can tell a good story.

Date: 2013-04-10 07:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Why not Batman and Robin: Year One? Bruce's first year working with Dick, with Jase, or with Tim, etc.

Because in the DCnU, that's the entirety of each Robin's tenure.

Date: 2013-04-10 09:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
Yeah, that five-year thing's got to be the main block to a pitch like that.

Still, I don't think the Bat-Family creative team's going to let a thing like that hinder them, if they really wanted to. Morrison got away with the entire New 52 Batman Inc. story arc , which was supposed to have occurred in the span of a single month, and that's counting Death of the Family.

Besides, when was the last time any of the comics mentioned anything about that five-year timeline? I really, really hope they're silently retconning away that particular idea.

Date: 2013-04-10 03:33 am (UTC)
gunny: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gunny
A-are those his brain juices ... uh... CHECK PLEASE.

Date: 2013-04-10 09:11 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
"So...basically another origin story for Batman."

I'd be really quite cynical about it myself if not for the fact that we haven't had a single Batman origin story in the comics since Year One, well over twenty years ago, now. It isn't like Superman, who had Man of Steel, Birthright, Secret Identity, Earth One, and Morrison's reboot take all in the same period. As Snyder's pointed out, Year One - great as it is - doesn't gel with the overall DCU any more.

Date: 2013-04-10 09:21 am (UTC)
zapbiffpow: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
Well, there was Johns' Batman: Earth One, which for me was, well, . I see your point about Year: One not fitting with the new DCU, though.

Date: 2013-04-10 09:23 am (UTC)
zapbiffpow: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
Damn, I meant to say ("makes see-sawing motion with hand"). Sorry!

Date: 2013-04-10 09:29 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I get what you mean. It had some nice art, granted, but overall was a bit 'eh'. I still don't think Johns is the right writer, overall, for Batman.

Date: 2013-04-10 09:33 am (UTC)
zapbiffpow: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
I still don't think Johns is the right writer, overall, for Batman.


Date: 2013-04-10 09:28 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
But Earth One's outside the main continuity, and seems to be pretty much Johns' baby to develop as he pleases.

Date: 2013-04-10 03:06 pm (UTC)
filthysize: (Default)
From: [personal profile] filthysize
I enjoy Snyder to an extent, but I'm probably gonna buy that Annual just for that Jock cover. Look at that thing.

Date: 2013-04-10 04:05 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
Hmm, the cover of Batman Annual looks like a little Nightwing influence in costume design. Though of course it far predates Nightwing, but a nice little blue symbol there. :)


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