Date: 2013-05-01 03:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Ah, I see this is 'An Incredibly Intelligent Bunch Of People Are Too Fucking Stupid To Consider Those Things Called 'Consequences': The X-Men Edition', or 'Everyone's An Asshole: The X-Men Edition'.

Date: 2013-05-01 03:07 pm (UTC)
sandoz_iscariot: The superhero Phoenix rises triumphantly out of the water, hair billowing, arms outstretched (X-Men: Phoenix Rising)
From: [personal profile] sandoz_iscariot
One of the biggest problems with the Team Wolverine vs. Team Cyclops feud is that both sides come off as petulant, sniping teenagers ("You brought this on yourself." "You REALLY did"). Like, Jean actually is 16, what's their excuse?

Date: 2013-05-01 03:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Well... Hank fucked around with the time stream... did he REALLY think that would have little to no consequences?

Date: 2013-05-01 03:36 pm (UTC)
sandoz_iscariot: (X-Men: Charles and Erik)
From: [personal profile] sandoz_iscariot
Well, Hank definitely screwed up. He wanted to hurt present!Scott, and I don't think he really considered the pain and shock he was going to put these kids through. Then Scott goes from saying the young X-Men should go back to welcoming Warren with open arms, and taking that last verbal shot at Hank--it's like they're both using these kids to hurt each other, which makes them both really unsympathetic.

Date: 2013-05-01 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i have been firmly team scott since (well since whedon) but also for many complicated reasons that i have stated on here as well as on my tumblr during AvX. (so i won't go into them here) so imight be a little biased.

at this point though the team has decided to stay here for the forseeable future. so at that point, it really IS thier choice. scott just came to offer it to them. (i mean i suppose he could have let them stay together... but the way Angel has been depicted so far here, he would have left on his own, scott game him someplace to run to.

Date: 2013-05-01 03:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Seriously. The only ones who come across as remotely sympathetic are the time-displaced X-Kids. Everyone else is just.. Jesus. We're meant to sympathise with Wolverine's group after he threatened to murder Young!Scott to bring Xavier back? And we're meant to sympathise with Scott's group when he claims to be fighting the good fight but is essentially using his muscle to invade a school and recruit some of it's members. Seriously.

Date: 2013-05-01 05:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] angelophile
I'm reading this book for the original X-men and Kitty. That's enough of a draw for me to get past the fuckery on the part of most of the other characters.

Date: 2013-05-01 05:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blunderbuss
I know, it goddamn bothered me that Scott is asking kids and teenagers to sign up for a REALLY BIG choice that they're barely only enough to make. Sure, Scott would justify that humanity has forced this upon them, blah blah, but it seems like they're play tug-of-war with kids.

Date: 2013-05-01 08:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
In fairness to Scott, they've been doing this for years and no one in-universe seemed to have a problem with it. Considering most of the characters here were recruited when they were 14-17, and the kids here were already recruited by Xavier in their own timeline.

Date: 2013-05-02 06:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blunderbuss
True, but there is a real difference between 'come to this school so you can learn more about your powers' and 'MUTANT CRUSAAAAAAADE!'

Date: 2013-05-01 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
With Logan, I took it as him just venting. If really given the opportunity, he wouldn't actually do it. In fact, Bendis has said that Logan will start to bond with the young Scott, seeing the tight-assed-but-cool Cyclops from before everything went to hell with them all in him.

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