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...(and frankly, who isn't?) then you may enjoy this new crossover; "Scooby-Doo Team Up"!

And who better to be their first guests that

Refreshingly old school isn't it! :) (Sorry about the text being a little hard to read, that's how it looks on the CBR page too)

As the watermark will have told you, this is from CBR, and there's a good interview with Sholly Fisch, the writer of this series (and of many issues of the Batman: The Brave and the Bold comic

Date: 2013-10-29 01:20 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Yeah, the newer, darker stuff in mainstream nowadays makes me think how CN really screw over Krypto the Superdog and B:BatB with either bad time-slots and/or short seasons... while Ben10 still goes on and ON....

So... does this mean the old Scooby Doo book, which has to be (Johnny) DC's longest running book by today's standards... and pretty much the only kids title in DC's library right now, as it seems most of the other shows are either done by Boom! or IDW (making that 45-year old comment seem more true) is gone? I never picked it up, but still, DC's title with the longest number right now... right next to Archie and Sonic...

Date: 2013-10-29 03:03 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Yeah, I like Ben Ten.

But another note: The current Batman Show Beware the Batman, has been pulled after just 11 episodes.

Date: 2013-10-29 03:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
I watches like one or two episodes. And it just didn't click with me. Of course it might have just been I was still bitter over YJ getting canned for this despite being a superior show.

Date: 2013-10-29 03:38 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (Falcon)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
I've been enjoying the show despite a lack of Robin. I really appreciate the fact that they're not trotting out the usual suspects as villains--we haven't seen the Joker or the Penguin or Catwoman--but that they're using other, less well known villains such as Professor Pyg, Magpie and Tobias Whale.

Unfortunately, they're also using R'as Al-Ghul as the big bad, and that's extremely underwhelming for me.

Date: 2013-10-29 05:13 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (howard the duck)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
Magpie is flirtatious, but there's not the mutual attraction that creates the electricity between the two of them. I wouldn't hate to see Catwoman, but I do feel like that's kind of played out.

Agreed "not feeling pain" doesn't mean you get to survive a 70 story fall.

Pyg is so much more interesting here than in the comics. Much better than "generic homicidal maniac in Gotham #3".

Date: 2013-10-29 10:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
Yeah, I have to admit I do like the shows Pyg. His British accent and affably evil personality is the best part of the show.

Date: 2013-10-29 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
Makes sense to me. Personally, I've always found Batman solo to be rather boring. His sidekicks and rogues gallery do most of the heavy lifting.

BtB was a lot more plot focused than other Batman cartoons. They worked around the limitations of the cgi by making every character important. I was really enjoying it when it was cancelled like this.

Date: 2013-10-29 07:25 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Don't forget the DC block is now airing reruns of the Teen Titans Go for a full hour... with DC Shorts that may or may not be new.... you think they would try to air some older material, like the 03 Titans or the Superfriends....

Date: 2013-10-29 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
Krypto did have toys, they were in the young children section instead of the action figure section since that was their target audience.

Considering that, at 65 episodes, Brave and the Bold is probably the longest running superhero cartoon since The Batman went off the air, I have a hard time declaring it to have been screwed by the network. Not even the Ben 10 series have cracked the 52 episode mark.

Ben 10 is sort of a special case, as, retcons aside, all of those shows are meant to take place in continuity with each other. But it's also a Cartoon Network original, so of course they give it more than the others, in addition to the massive toy sales. But even then there's a whole wave of Ben 10 toys that have had prototypes displayed months ago but haven't hit the stores yet. My local Target stopped carrying the toy line recently, even.

I think it's time Cartoon Network admitted that a Saturday morning action block simply doesn't work anymore. They already killed it on network tv, they should stop trying to bring it back. Remember Friday nights? That was a great action cartoon block, and killing it killed a number of the shows included in it. I mean, a Batman cartoon couldn't survive Saturday morning, it's not a good time slot.

Date: 2013-10-29 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
That schedule is pretty familiar for me growing up, but the vast majority of cartoon blocks on broadcast channels have been killed by cable networks such as Cartoon Network making them available all the time. (My "remember Friday nights" comment was actually not meant to be taken seriously, by the way, it was supposed to make me sound "folksy.")

Those are the ones. Also there were a number of UK-exclusive characters in the alien force run, too, such as Zombozo and Helen.

So, umm, how much is that gonna cost your friend?

Date: 2013-10-29 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
I shall have to make my own friend in the UK to hook me up, it appears.

The toy line has gone through droughts like this before. It'll probably come back soon and I can complete my collection then.

Date: 2013-10-29 01:23 pm (UTC)
moetushie: Batmen in batlove. (batlove)
From: [personal profile] moetushie
I miss Batman: the Brave and the Bold everyday. That was a good show.

Date: 2013-10-29 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Hmm. Seems kind of an old-school Mystery Inc, too. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I did enjoy the new show.

(It had an episode where they infiltrated a restaurant called the "Clam-Net of Doctor Calimari!")

Date: 2013-10-29 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dewinged
The Scrappy/Flim Flam bit was kinda gratuitous 'look how hip and with it we are, we hate them too!' I almost want to start liking those two out of sheer spite.

SD:MI was just flat-out amazing. CN handled it badly because they've been in 'but plotlines and thinking is hard! Let's just have shows where random shit happens for no reason! (See: their entire Monday night lineup). Quality is a 4-letter word!' mode for the past few years.

Date: 2013-10-30 03:25 am (UTC)
silverzeo: Mildly annoyed mode (CSJ is Trunks!)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
I think the live action movie ruined the hating of Scrappy... it was funny when he parodied in commercials and on Adult Swim Shows, like Havery Birdman... but making him into an evil baddie while everyone else was just... NOT themselves didn't work... though I wonder with the end of MI, that the evil spirit somehow influence Scrappy of that world, if not everyone else...

And sadly, Johnny Test, one of the few shows from KidsWB, is somehow part of that line-up, worthy of promotion (as well as that DIsco-Disney theme commercial they have). Ben10 still goes like crazy, but it took Generator Rex nearly a year to finished its last season... on weekday mornings durning winter break....

Date: 2013-10-29 04:03 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (Butterworm)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
Anyone who can use Scrappy-Doo and brilliant in the same sentence without including the word 'failure' is a rare personality indeed.

Date: 2013-10-29 08:01 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (Blue Devil)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
Never speaking of him again is quite acceptable in my book.

I hadn't heard of this series before. Apparently they're attempting...continuity?

Also, it's occurred to me that Fred and Daphne are pretty much useless as it's always Shaggy and Scooby that face down the big bad of the week.

And Velma just needs to get out more. :D

Date: 2013-10-29 09:35 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (Your Panties)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
So they've turned Fred into Grimbor?

Date: 2013-10-30 06:32 am (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
I do question the series finale ending to the Daph's siblings lives... it seems a little too much like a sexist Family Guy joke, or an actual retcon of a female character in DC...

Date: 2013-10-30 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
I tend to mentally edit that out of the ending, or just classify it as te curse ending not being 100% a good thing. There was very much a "be careful what you wish for" pall to the ending, and I suppose it could have been part of that. Like she didn't really prosper simply because it was at the expense of her sisters.

Date: 2013-10-29 04:57 pm (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
A Lament Configuration in the same continent as Velma sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Actually, I think I've seen that fancomic somewhere...

Date: 2013-10-29 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lego_joker
Ehhh. I tried to watch Mystery Incorporated, and it just wasn't happening. I pulled out before the first season was up.

I think that the breaking point was "Song of Mystery". Look, making the Scooby series more serious and plot-driven is fine - heck, I supported and loved Zombie Island all the way for doing just that. But you cannot just decide to throw in so many over-the-top cartoon gags while you're at it: all the parents casually abandoning Crystal Cove and their "corrupted" children might have worked in a gag-driven series like "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo", but here, it just left a bad taste in my mouth.

The crossover episode and the Scrappy/Flim Flam cameos bugged me for similar reasons. Those things belong in a "Brave and the Bold"-style series that doesn't take itself the least bit seriously, not one where we're expected to care about plot development and character relationships.

Date: 2013-10-29 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lego_joker
I'll admit that Brave and the Bold is kind of a special case, since there's really no continuity to speak of between episodes. Each episode can take whatever tone it likes, so long as that tone remains consistent within the episode itself (we wouldn't want Bat-Mite to suddenly pop up in "Chill of the Night", no more than we would want a serious death scene in the middle of "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure").

Mystery Incorporated, on the other hand, has continuing storylines as its main draw, and revolves around four ordinary teenagers and a talking dog, to boot. As such, I expect some measure of tonal continuity between episodes, which it appears to be rather bad at.

Eh - maybe I'm just annoyed that the show feels more like a superhero show than any kind of mystery show, especially when the psychic parrot (and, from what I hear, a bunch of time travel stuff) pops up.

Date: 2013-10-30 02:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Have you watched all of the second season? I've been holding off since about the halfway point, as I was under the impression that it brought in some apparently genuine mystical elements and timey-wimey stuff in the finale, which isn't something I have an interest in seeing in a Scooby-Doo story.

Date: 2013-10-30 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
It definitely had genuinely supernatural stuff in the finale. And while there was no time travel, breaking the curse of Crystal Cove did have an effect on the past. But even when the supernatural elements came in, they never forgot that the show was about mysteries first and foremost.

Date: 2013-10-29 10:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] supermanda
Yeah, we kept running into ALL SORTS of people back then. Singers, basketball players... it felt like we were teaming up with someone different every week!

k I've been watching the old eps every night before bed and this is cracking my shit up

Time for another stupid question...

Date: 2013-10-30 06:26 am (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Will any of the OTHER Hanna-Barbera cartoon characters will appear in this book... just like how they pretty much only have small cameo or walk-on roles in the shows and movies.... that's pretty much all the usage WB will use of them outside of those awful awful live action movies (the Smurfs movies spawned a Christmas special with actual traditional animation while Yogi Bear's movie, which I heard actually doesn't use the lowest of the lows, and it got nothing)... same thing with Tom and Jerry and the MGM collection...

Date: 2013-10-31 07:39 am (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
I know Batman and Robin have met up with Scooby Doo on a couple of occasions, however this still sounds awesome!

I would buy the comics with Scooby crossing over with other DC Comics characters without a doubt, especially some of DC Comics other superheroes(I would love to see Scooby meeting Superman or Wonder Woman or Green Lantern for instance, that would be fantastic. :)

Date: 2013-10-31 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] spacebetween
Honestly, I'm not missing Batman: The Brave and the Bold at all. Especially when they said they were going avoid to the classic Batman villains to focus on other villains. Then used the Joker.


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