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"I bet if they existed in real life, and not just in comics and films, antiheroes would be insufferable arseholes." -- James Roberts

And, lastly, Ultra Magnus has some harsh words for Prowl.

Date: 2014-03-20 07:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Every time I don't think I could love this series more, we get moments like Swerve geeking out over Blurr, Megatron in full-on smug bastard mode and Prowl getting called on his shit, and I love it even more!

Date: 2014-03-22 12:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
-Prowl getting called on his shit,-

Though even if someone says something he doesn't like, he has his new friends to fall back on! :D

Date: 2014-03-20 07:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
It's nice to see Megs finally starting to at least slightly get a crew.

I hope Blurr learns Swerve's name.

And did Prowl really think calling him Minimus Ambus would get under his skin...?

Date: 2014-03-20 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] spacebetween
I don't think it was to get under his skin, more to address what he said to Minimus Ambus directly to him; given that there has been several Ultra Magnus now.

Date: 2014-03-20 05:43 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
This would be every bit as offensive.

It's hard to analogize to humans, since Cybertronian's names function both as name and title, and change frequently, but there are a few situations that are close:

Referring to a job superior by their first name, rather than their rank or title or a police officer who you are dealing with in an official capacity by their name, rather than 'officer'/'detective'/whatever's appropriate
- disregarding their position. He is denying Magnus' authority to chew him out.

Referring to someone who's changed their name for whatever reason (adoption, breaking from an abusive past, transitioning) by their birth name - disregarding their identity. He is claiming to have more control of Magnus' identity than Magnus himself.

Both are jaw-droppingly offensive if he's doing it on purpose. Add in jaw-dropping cluelessness if he's not. Being offensive in an attempt to disarm his opponent is in-character for Prowl. Not realizing he's being offensive with something as blatant as this is not.

Date: 2014-03-20 08:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Though IIRC Amblus didn't really earn or choose the name of Ultra Magnus, he was given it by someone other than Magnus. His assumption of it could be seen as being part of a long con job on the Cybertronian population. He had done his best, but always knew he had been using another person's name, so being addressed by his true name might be seen as just desserts.

Date: 2014-03-22 12:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
He was selected for the job, offered, and accepted, and has carried the role longer than any prior judging by Ratchet's comments.

Date: 2014-03-20 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
Back at the start of MTMTE, given the state Magnus was in at the time (Stressed, increasingly OCD, and so on) I think it would have had an impact. And given the way Prowl was acting on the previous pages, I'm pretty sure that's what he was aiming for. Unluckily for the Constructicons idol, the people he's trying to torment have grown in ways he wasn't expecting.

I am sorry you didn't include Chromedomes reaction to Prowl bringing up Rewind and smirking. Never has someone being thrown off a cliff been so satisfying :)

Date: 2014-03-20 08:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
- Unluckily for the Constructicons idol, the people he's trying to torment have grown in ways he wasn't expecting.-

Because Ultra-Magnuses and growth/change normally don't go hand in hand :)

Date: 2014-03-20 05:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
As with IDW's first TRANSFORMERS series (issue 22), I like it when Megatron gets philosophical and nostalgic with the Autobots. And it annoys the Autobots. Like Megatron thinks he did all of the oppressed Cybertronians some kind of favor by starting the war.

Date: 2014-03-20 06:39 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
That's actually exactly the opposite of this conversation, though. This conversation was Megatron realizing that his positive goal went out the window when he started the war, that he'd become a tyrant instead of toppling them. (To be fair, he did actually accomplish that, too, but only by making himself one.)

Date: 2014-03-20 07:07 pm (UTC)
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I'm not sure if I'd go that far. I'd say he realizes that he would have had better chance to succeed in his goals through his initial approach, rather than through the war. It doesn't seem to be about morality, but simply efficiency.

Just going by the scans here, haven't read the issue, and my subjective view on Megatron's character.


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