Date: 2015-02-08 02:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
except for the mini JLA arc Geoff Johns wrote which basically only acknowledged Batman remembered and wanted nothing to do with the one who voted - which was never followed up on except with Zatanna

INFINITE CRISIS had this.
Brother Eye: Why are you doing this to me, Creator? You can trust me to do what is right. You cannot trust them. You can never trust them again after all they have done.
Batman: I'll take my chances. (Hal Jordan rescues him.)

Meaning Batman is now somehow "cool" with Mindwipe Inc. Exactly why he ever wanted to work with Mindwipe Inc. again totally eludes me.

Date: 2015-02-08 09:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Because Infinite Crisis had that whole thing going on of 'yeah these people have done shitty things, but they can be *better*'. Which, sure, fine. People deserve the chance to make up for what they've done. IC just did it while slapping people in the face at the same time for daring to like Earth-Two Superman and others.

To say nothing of the fact that the trinity resolved to be better people, and even appointed Black Canary as leader of the new JLA, only to undermine that by doing stuff behind her back, leaving her with a ramshackle group, and other heroes undermining her like Hal and Ollie establishing their own JL group do to the things other people weren't willing to do... Which is precisely the kind of bullshit that got them into the hole they dug during Identity Crisis.

Date: 2015-02-08 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Oh yeah, Cry for justice. Where Hal and Ollie take justice in their hands, torture people, and argue they do not deserve rights as human beings. isn't it nice to see them NOT learning from the mistake that ended CREATING BROTHER EYE?

Date: 2015-02-08 02:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
You forget that it has RAY PALMER IN SOMEONE'S BRAIN TORTURING THEM USING HIS POWERS.

Which is, you know, EXACTLY what his ex-wife supposedly did to Sue. Are we sure Ray didn't set his wife up to take the fall, here?

Date: 2015-02-08 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
and, to put the cherry on the cake, after spending the entire story playing prometheus game by actin glike that, Prometheus calling them out on the brainwash thing, and being partially responsible for what happens to roy and his daughter. how does the book end? with Ollie killing prometheus and saying "justice". OLLIE DID NOT LEARN ANYTHING FROM ALL THIS CRAP! people try to say Batman/Superman are a menace but no, Ollie is the menace.

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