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ILLUMINATI: T'Challa was right.
Here are some pages from the 2006 Illuminati One-Shot.

At first glance, the Illuminati didn't seem like a bad idea. Members of the major teams get together and trade notes. Not a bad thing. Then we find out nobody else knows about this little group and what they do. And THEN we find out the Illuminati can't do anything right.

This annoys me. Now, Maria Hill doesn't *say* these people and dog are dead. But even injured, it is a big deal.
Maybe she's lying to see if Iron Man and Co. will do something to "get rid" of the Hulk. (A theory I think a fanfiction story once used, to be honest.)

Oh, well, Spider-Man won't kill Osborn because... reasons. I remember when only the Punisher and Wolverine would kill people. Then things got more morally flexible in the Marvel Universe. They are still strong with Spider-Man not killing anything. Whatculture.com has ten times Spider-Man killed someone, though. The only ones who came back were Gog and Morlun, IIRC.

Xavier (who is absent) said that if Bruce Banner could kill himself, he would have done so years ago.
Does Bendis hate the Hulk or something? Is the Hulk a part of the Marvel Universe no one really understands?
http://whatculture.com/comics/10-things-marvel-wants-you-to-forget-about-the-hulk.php/11
Aside from Namor, all the others vote yes on shooting the Hulk into space. Namor starts threatening, and Tony says they are all warriors and all willing to fight for what they believe in.
NAMOR: You're a warrior. I'm a king.
TONY: Not up here you're not.
Namor and Tony fight underwater, with Namor ripping off Tony's helmet.

Yes, this kept the Hulk out of CIVIL WAR and PLANET HULK was great. Still, it makes the Illuminati look like they can't do anything right. And then the ILLUMINATI miniseries made it *clear* they can't do anything right. Then Steve Rogers and Hank McCoy joined the ILLUMINATI and again, nothing right.

At first glance, the Illuminati didn't seem like a bad idea. Members of the major teams get together and trade notes. Not a bad thing. Then we find out nobody else knows about this little group and what they do. And THEN we find out the Illuminati can't do anything right.

This annoys me. Now, Maria Hill doesn't *say* these people and dog are dead. But even injured, it is a big deal.
Maybe she's lying to see if Iron Man and Co. will do something to "get rid" of the Hulk. (A theory I think a fanfiction story once used, to be honest.)

Oh, well, Spider-Man won't kill Osborn because... reasons. I remember when only the Punisher and Wolverine would kill people. Then things got more morally flexible in the Marvel Universe. They are still strong with Spider-Man not killing anything. Whatculture.com has ten times Spider-Man killed someone, though. The only ones who came back were Gog and Morlun, IIRC.

Xavier (who is absent) said that if Bruce Banner could kill himself, he would have done so years ago.
Does Bendis hate the Hulk or something? Is the Hulk a part of the Marvel Universe no one really understands?
http://whatculture.com/comics/10-things-marvel-wants-you-to-forget-about-the-hulk.php/11
Aside from Namor, all the others vote yes on shooting the Hulk into space. Namor starts threatening, and Tony says they are all warriors and all willing to fight for what they believe in.
NAMOR: You're a warrior. I'm a king.
TONY: Not up here you're not.
Namor and Tony fight underwater, with Namor ripping off Tony's helmet.

Yes, this kept the Hulk out of CIVIL WAR and PLANET HULK was great. Still, it makes the Illuminati look like they can't do anything right. And then the ILLUMINATI miniseries made it *clear* they can't do anything right. Then Steve Rogers and Hank McCoy joined the ILLUMINATI and again, nothing right.
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Have you ever read Age of Ultron? In the story, the titular character destroys and isolates New York from everywhere else, and slowly spreads to the rest of the United States of Ameria. As such, Wilverine uses a Time Platform to go back in time and kill Hank Pym before he could create Ultron... only to discover that his actions caused the Kree-Skrull War to reach Earth, Tony Stark is suprememruler over most of the world and fights a losing battle against the combined forces of a married Morgan le Fay and Doctor Doom. Also in this time, many people died (including Susan Storm), Tony's suit has become an Iron Lung/life-support system and the Helicarrier crashes into New York, killing (including Tony). Can you see the point I'm trying to make?
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In Age of Ultron, Hawkeye grouses that the end of the world is all Hank Pym's fault, and saying he didn't *mean* to create Ultron doesn't make it better. So the time machine is fired up.
At some point Iceman said, "I wish Scott could look at who he used to be and understand..." Or something like that. And that was what gave Hank the "bring the 05 to the present" idea. Which everyone agrees was really stupid. Even the 05, even though they didn't want to go back to their time (at first) and now *can't* because of Timey-Wimey reasons.