ILLUMINATI: T'Challa was right.

[starwolf_oakley]

Here are some pages from the 2006 Illuminati One-Shot.





At first glance, the Illuminati didn't seem like a bad idea. Members of the major teams get together and trade notes. Not a bad thing. Then we find out nobody else knows about this little group and what they do. And THEN we find out the Illuminati can't do anything right.



This annoys me. Now, Maria Hill doesn't *say* these people and dog are dead. But even injured, it is a big deal.
Maybe she's lying to see if Iron Man and Co. will do something to "get rid" of the Hulk. (A theory I think a fanfiction story once used, to be honest.)



Oh, well, Spider-Man won't kill Osborn because... reasons. I remember when only the Punisher and Wolverine would kill people. Then things got more morally flexible in the Marvel Universe. They are still strong with Spider-Man not killing anything. Whatculture.com has ten times Spider-Man killed someone, though. The only ones who came back were Gog and Morlun, IIRC.



Xavier (who is absent) said that if Bruce Banner could kill himself, he would have done so years ago.
Does Bendis hate the Hulk or something? Is the Hulk a part of the Marvel Universe no one really understands?

http://whatculture.com/comics/10-things-marvel-wants-you-to-forget-about-the-hulk.php/11

Aside from Namor, all the others vote yes on shooting the Hulk into space. Namor starts threatening, and Tony says they are all warriors and all willing to fight for what they believe in.

NAMOR: You're a warrior. I'm a king.
TONY: Not up here you're not.

Namor and Tony fight underwater, with Namor ripping off Tony's helmet.



Yes, this kept the Hulk out of CIVIL WAR and PLANET HULK was great. Still, it makes the Illuminati look like they can't do anything right. And then the ILLUMINATI miniseries made it *clear* they can't do anything right. Then Steve Rogers and Hank McCoy joined the ILLUMINATI and again, nothing right.

Comments

[mr_cyn1cal]

Ah, the Illuminati. So great, and their marvelous track record of success after success!

The guys who ended the threat of the Hulk by tossing him off planet!
The team that prevented the Skrulls from invading with a pre-emptive strike!
The heroes who championed the Registration Act and the Utopia it created!
The stalwart guardians of the Infinity Gems and later, the jailors of Thanos!
The group that reformed Noh-Varr and the Beyonder!
And of course, there is all their stellar work dealing with the Incursions...

At this point I wouldn't trust this crew to take care of an abandoned mall parking lot. For a group of geniuses, they seem not to understand the concepts of things like "Blowback", or "Unintended consequnces", despite the fact that those very concepts are BAKED INTO THEIR ORIGIN STORIES (Reed, Tony, I'm looking at you).

At this point, here's my picks for the new Illumaniti - D-Man, Molly Hayes, Deadpool, Beak, and three six year old children selected at random - and they would STILL have better results than these chuckleheads.

Yeah, a secret group of the world's elite trying to control the world - that can only end well.

MORONS.

[burkeonthesly]

Beak would be a great addition to the Illuminati. His greatest skill has nothing to do with his power, he's just a decent guy who's good at making friends and that was instrumental in beating an evil Hyperion. Hell, his greatest skill is in spite of his mutation, since he looks like the embodiment all of Colonel Sanders' sins come to life and seeking vengeance. During the incursions, he'd be the guy going to other-Earth's superteams like, "hey, we've got some ideas about how not to die, let's put 'em together with your ideas how not to die, and maybe we can all not die together. Cool?"

[deh_tommy]

The sad thing (in my opinion) is that many people do believe they are superior to the common folk, and that they know or at least feel what is and should be right. It just so happened that a group of these people had the power and resources to do so.