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The first time Dick Grayson tried to get married, the priest blew up before he could complete the vows. The Batman Family finds this funny.

First let me give you some context...

So naturally everyone this time around is in anticipation on if the priest will finish his sentence...

Then everyone JOKES ABOUT IT!!!!

I would expect more from Donna Troy...


Still "What kind of weddings do you people go to" is one of the funniest lines of the comic.

You would think that the death of a minister who was simply in the wrong place, at the wrong time, marrying the wrong people would be treated more sensitively.

Date: 2009-07-05 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
They're not saying it happened at Dick's last wedding. The way they're talking of it, it could have been any other wedding.

And, from the plot summer icon_uk gave above, it didn't sound like the Bride even knew Dick was a vigilante at all.

Yeah. Sorry, I don't see your point?...

Date: 2009-07-05 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
It's really, really rude and unpleasant to flaunt your greater knowledge of the groom's life - and previous loves - to the bride at any time, let alone at her wedding to the guy.

Like.. if you saw the woman pre-church, and the back of her dress was tucked in her knickers, you'd tell her before she went up the aisle. Because otherwise, though she may not herself notice at all, the rest of the guests would ALL be seeing her looking ridiculous on her wedding day, which one would assume would be kind of a big deal day for her. This is like not telling her and letting her flash her arse while pledging herself to someone in all ways, only deeper.

Date: 2009-07-05 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
But they don't say it happened at Dick's wedding. They're not flaunting anything, except possibly the fact that they have enough history to have common memories - and given that the Titans have introduced themselves at Dick's friends, that's obvious.

First, since the wedding was a sham and a case to solve, for Dick, of course he wasn't going to tell the woman he thought had killed three husbands and who he was playing bait for that he was a vigilante. Second, and I hope I'm wrong, but haven't there been heroes who did marry and didn't tell their spouse they were vigilantes until a long time after the wedding? (I'm thinking of Barry Allen, but my knowledge of non-Bats, pre-Crisis comics is very limited, so it's extremely possible I'm way wrong.)

Date: 2009-07-05 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
But they know that they know, and that she doesn't. Private jokes are fun between friends, amongst strangers or in hostile ground, but amongst other friends or interested parties they're rude. They are flaunting it, to themselves. Which is just another way of rubbing in, once she finds out the truth (and you always have to allow for the fact that someone MAY find out), that she is the butt of everyone's joke.

She says "what kind of weddings do you go to?"; she obviously can tell that SOMETHING is up. Anyone would, with multiple people saying "SO GLAD THE MINISTER DIDNT DIE, AMIRITE?".

I'm sure there have indeed been weddings where one party is unaware that the other is a costumed vigilante, but a) that's not good and b) I would hope that the other heroes there didn't go around, I don't know, making puns about tights and masks and secret IDs.

And yeah, it's a sham wedding. But she doesn't know that. Isn;t that enough of a trick to play on someone, without everyone else jaunting around joking about just what else she's being lied to about?

Date: 2009-07-05 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
The Titans didn't know either it was a sham wedding until Dick told Donna and asked her to burn the certificate.

I honestly never read the references to the minister's death at Dick and Kory's wedding as a joke at anyone's expense; to me, it was always that they were expressing real relief that things had gone smoothly, and they didn't go into too much details because they had other things on their mind. Maybe they were or became aware of the possibility that the bride didn't know about Dick's secret identity, maybe they were simply too busy talking among themselves to pay much attention to her.

She says "what kind of weddings do you go to?"; she obviously can tell that SOMETHING is up.

Anyone would be appalled at being told such a story on their wedding day.

Date: 2009-07-05 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
It's still less than polite to refer to previous weddings on present ones.

And, yeah.. they would. So it's a jerk thing to say, still! :]!

Date: 2009-07-05 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
And we're back to my first point; they don't shove it into her face that the minister exploding happened on Dick previous wedding. And aside from that, I don't see anything wrong with referring to someone else's wedding.

I can't remember the last wedding I attended when someone did not say incredibly jerk-like things to or about either of the newlyweds. (Hint: no, it really doesn't make you look cool to talk about divorce rates or cheating spouses.) So this wouldn't have been the most sensitive remark anyway, but it only refers to things that might have gone wrong, not going on about the future, so I'm okay with it.

Date: 2009-07-05 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
XD But it DID happen on his previous wedding.

Yeah, people say bad things at weddings. But they're still BAD things to say, and the people who say them can/should be told off!

We are, I think, talking past each other. Shake hands on an impasse? :]

Date: 2009-07-05 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com

;) Yeah, I think we've about reached that point.

Date: 2009-07-05 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
(I love being grown up about arguments on the internet. Cheers! :D!)


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