[identity profile] parsimonia.insanejournal.com posting in [community profile] scans_daily
This is a repost from the old community.

I'm kind of iffy on the art here, and I could nit-pick the dialogue, but I really liked having Cass on Outsiders. I liked that she was interacting with people like Katana and Metamorpho who weren't strictly Bat-people, widening her network, you might say. If DC decides to break my heart and kick Cass out of the Batgirl cowl, then I sincerely hope they do something with her, as I'd hate to have her relegated to obscurity.

Date: 2009-07-08 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownscribler.insanejournal.com
Teaming Cass and Jason could be fun...

Date: 2009-07-08 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goblinthebamf.insanejournal.com
motto, although I'd still be disappointed that the title wouldn't be "Batgirl and Red Robin".

Date: 2009-07-08 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toasty_fresh.insanejournal.com
He'd be crazy, she'd wonder what the heck was wrong with him . . . it'd be great!

Date: 2009-07-08 05:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hey, guys. Guys!

I found Waldo.

Date: 2009-07-08 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zechs27.insanejournal.com
Is it wrong for me to hope beyond hope that Tomasi will eventually have Cass appear in Outsiders again to visit Katana?

Date: 2009-07-08 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] islwyn.insanejournal.com
We'd just need to give Tim the Flamebird gear.

Date: 2009-07-08 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ulf_boehnke.insanejournal.com
Where's Metamorpho in the lower half of the second page? I can't find him!

Date: 2009-07-08 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymirth.insanejournal.com
Apart from Cass's face, I love the art. And the colors!

Date: 2009-07-08 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mullon.insanejournal.com
I wish we could this run of Batman and the Outsiders back, even if Cass's face looks like crap.

Date: 2009-07-08 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.insanejournal.com
I love that picture of Cass where her cloak is all around her in little spikes on the ground.

Date: 2009-07-08 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toasty_fresh.insanejournal.com
Okay, this team-up has to happen so bad right now . . .

Date: 2009-07-08 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysteryfan.insanejournal.com
I'd love to read that!

Date: 2009-07-08 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The art seems okay right up until that last, terrible panel.

Date: 2009-07-08 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
Since Beechen, has Cass always been shown as talking as well as she does here? Because she never was big on the sentences with more than one clause in her own series. Too articulate.

And I don't think Cass should talk so easily of her family to people she doesn't know well. And the shot in the last panel is remarkably grimdark for a girl who when she's decently written is nowhere near bitter.

I liked Waldo and the 'no class'.

Date: 2009-07-08 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
Fact: Cass should get to interact with more Bat people. (And more non Bat people as well.)

Fact: Jason should get to interact with more Bat people.

Except for future retcons, Jason hadn't met or talked with any of the girls - Babs, Steph, Cass, Helena - any of the supporting cast - Alfred, Leslie, Jim - or any of the people whose retconned existence into the family would only make sense thematically for him to meet (Damian). And that needs to happen. My god, but does he think about all this? I can't imagine Winick's Jason never found out about Steph being Robin, even if he didn't know in UtH. Is there any reason at all except the no-mentioning-the-Bat-females policy in practice at DC for Jason to not think anything about Steph? Or Cass? He was mad that Bruce replaced him with a new Robin that Jason feared was better than he was, what the hell did he think of Bruce apparently replacing Babs with Cass?

And while we're at it, is there any place where Babs mentions Jason's return at all? What does Babs think of Jason playing the victim unavenged by Batman? (I think she should kick his ass, it can't be just me, right?)

Fact: Jason + Cass meeting = YES DO WANT. Just give me a writer that'll do them justice.

Date: 2009-07-08 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So...what the heck is Cass's status right now? We know she likely won't be the next (only?) active batgirl, but...where has she ended up?

Date: 2009-07-08 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octopussoir.insanejournal.com
If I recall correctly, Jason and Cass cameod on the same episode of JL. 'The Savage Time' pt. 3.

Date: 2009-07-08 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
That was Toon Tim. So yeah, Jason for a good part. Oh man, how I squeed when I saw Cass.

Date: 2009-07-08 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
Bat-tentacles? Bat-god-swallowing-the-man/girl? Bat-being-one-with-the-city?

Date: 2009-07-09 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com
IIRC, the only people she did talk about her family to were Babs (and Jim after she'd saved him in her introductory scene, to explain who she was to Cain), occasionally Batman, and Steph. Only with Steph was it casual, the other cases were always deeply meaningful, and I'm not sure she ever was the one who started the subject with Babs.

Maybe she can adapt her talking about family to how she perceives the people she's talking to feel about family, that'd explain why it was such an important subject when she was with Batman even if they rarely spoke directly about it, or maybe she changed her views since then. I'm not inclined to giving this the benefit of the doubt.

Why would she tell Katana about something like this?

Date: 2009-07-10 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychop_rex.insanejournal.com
I can't believe I didn't catch that. I used to love those books.

Date: 2009-07-10 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychop_rex.insanejournal.com
Why exactly does Rex have those weird swirls/tattoos all over him? Is it just an art choice, or what?

Date: 2009-07-11 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zechs27.insanejournal.com
Considering that this was right before her mini that we dare not mention. When you think about it in the context of Cain and Shiva then I kinda like the final words she has with Katana. This is during her need of someone and a family which she got again at the end of mini we dare not post. Remember she still didn't know Steph was alive. All she had really was Tim and Alfred.

Date: 2009-07-12 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zechs27.insanejournal.com
Yeah I really took it at her talking about Cain and Shiva not the Bat-Family given all the antics the two parents have done to try and make her into a killer like them.

And you're not the only one to have tears of frustation with that mini as well :(


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